[Tagging] Best practice regarding addr:housenumber and POIs

2009-10-15 Thread Markus Lindholm
Hi I'm wondering what is best practice regarding tagging addr:housenumber and POIs, e.g. amenity=restaurant. Let's assume that on Mainstreet 10 there's a restaurant named Thai Wok. Should there be one node or two? One single node with the tags addr:street, addr:housenumber, amenity=restaurant and

Re: [Tagging] Best practice regarding addr:housenumber and POIs

2009-10-15 Thread Peter Childs
2009/10/15 Markus Lindholm : > Hi > > I'm wondering what is best practice regarding tagging addr:housenumber > and POIs, e.g. amenity=restaurant. > Let's assume that on Mainstreet 10 there's a restaurant named Thai > Wok. Should there be one node or two? > One single node with the tags addr:street,

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Opinion poll - landuse orchard

2009-10-15 Thread Pieren
Hi, please join the opinion poll about the landuse=orchard proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/orchard Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Housenumber interpolation with regularlyskippednumbers

2009-10-15 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Randy Thomson wrote: > Sounds good Martin. I have about 3000-5000 houses to tag, I'll tag the > beginning and ending house addresses, on each street, if you'll tag the > 15-20 individual houses in between. They're in the satellite images, so > it shouldn't be a pro

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/14 sly (sylvain letuffe) : > In the holes continuity, it as been proposed that an area representing > something inside another area would still be part of a multipolygon relation > but with it's own tags. no, this is not the case. Multipolygon says: the inner part is NOT part of the outer

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Dave F.
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > well, even in the case lake inside a forest I'm not sure, if the > forest stops where there is the lake. Probably you can consider the > lake also part of the forest (when it's small), or to give a different > example: elementary school inside a residential area. Usuall

Re: [Tagging] Housenumber interpolation with regularlyskippednumbers

2009-10-15 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Anthony wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Randy Thomson > wrote: >> Sounds good Martin. I have about 3000-5000 houses to tag, I'll tag the >> beginning and ending house addresses, on each street, if you'll tag the >> 15-20 individual houses in between. Th

Re: [Tagging] Best practice regarding addr:housenumber and POIs

2009-10-15 Thread Markus Lindholm
2009/10/15 Peter Childs : > 2009/10/15 Markus Lindholm : >> Hi >> >> I'm wondering what is best practice regarding tagging addr:housenumber >> and POIs, e.g. amenity=restaurant. >> Let's assume that on Mainstreet 10 there's a restaurant named Thai >> Wok. Should there be one node or two? >> One sin

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/15 Dave F. : > Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> well, even in the case lake inside a forest I'm not sure, if the >> forest stops where there is the lake. Probably you can consider the >> lake also part of the forest (when it's small), or to give a different >> example: elementary school inside

Re: [Tagging] Best practice regarding addr:housenumber and POIs

2009-10-15 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Markus Lindholm wrote: > I guess the follow-up question then is: what if there are multiple > POIs that have the same addr:housenumber? Should it be duplicated on > all the POIs? If you're going to add a distinguishing address feature, such as "addr:suite=*", you

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > well, elementary schools belong to a residential area as well as a > (not to big) convenience store that serves mostly this area or a pub. > At least to "general residential areas" according to German law > (BauNVO, WA = allgemeines Wo

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
On jeudi 15 octobre 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > no, this is not the case. Multipolygon says: the inner part is NOT > part of the outer polygon. I didn't say that ;-) I said : "an area representing something inside another area would still be part of a multipolygon relation" (I assumed pe

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
On jeudi 15 octobre 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > For the lake in the forest: do you agree that someone would say: the > lake (pond) is in the forest? Like a way in the forest, which doesn't > have trees growing on it, but still is in the forest. It is not > excluded. That's a human language

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:56 AM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote: > On jeudi 15 octobre 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> let the mappers decide. > > So we do agree. My point was to stop or not to stop harrassing mappers that do > not include inner polygons. We can not harass them, but still asser

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:56 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote: Are you suggesting that when a landuse is inside another landuse, we just don't use a multipolygon relation and don't care if the big is overlapping the small ? But we are not modelling the reality in this case. If someone or some soft

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Dave F.
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2009/10/15 Dave F. : > >> Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >>> well, even in the case lake inside a forest I'm not sure, if the >>> forest stops where there is the lake. Probably you can consider the >>> lake also part of the forest (when it's small), or to give a

Re: [Tagging] schools

2009-10-15 Thread Gerald A
Hi, On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:30 PM, David Earl wrote: > Because it is likely to be useful to my local authority in a real world > project, I am considering adding some tags to schools to classify them, > something like this: > > operator=Somewhereshire County Council > > school:level=early|first

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
On jeudi 15 octobre 2009, Anthony wrote: > We can not harass them, but still assert that doing so is wrong, can't we? We can, but "should we ?" -- sly Sylvain Letuffe li...@letuffe.org qui suis-je : http://slyserv.dyndns.org ___ Tagging mailing lis

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Dave F.
Anthony wrote: > > What happens when there's a section of forest which people are using > as their residence? No matter what the size, I see these as mutually exclusive. In other words they can't both occur in the same place. Whether they get mapped like that is up to the mapper depending time/fu

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:24 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote: > On jeudi 15 octobre 2009, Anthony wrote: >> We can not harass them, but still assert that doing so is wrong, can't we? > We can, but "should we ?" If it's wrong, then yes, we should. Deciding that landuse areas should never overlap

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Dave F. wrote: > Anthony wrote: >> >> What happens when there's a section of forest which people are using >> as their residence? > No matter what the size, I see these as mutually exclusive. In other > words they can't both occur in the same place. I fully agree

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Ben Laenen
Anthony wrote: > The problem with the landuse tag is it's being used for multiple > things. On one hand, it's being used to describe what the land is > being used for - if people are using the land as their residence, the > land is tagged landuse=residential. On the other hand, it's being > used

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
On jeudi 15 octobre 2009, Pieren wrote: > Are you suggesting that when a landuse is inside another landuse, we > just don't use a multipolygon relation and don't care if the big is > overlapping the small ? Not suggesting, exploring solutions. I'm probably missing elements, but I feel it could be

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Dave F.
Anthony wrote: > add a fixme=create_hole tag and a bot could go around fixing them... Hi Anthony Does this exist or is it a wish list item? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] tagging the multipolygon model (was landuse and military)

2009-10-15 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:43 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote: > But my point is also toward another consideration : > Mappers will tend to walk that way, and nothing can stop them. You can't force > a mapper to add a thousand small lake in a forest to an inner polygon. Let's > now ease our pain a

[Tagging] Lakes, islands and multipolygons

2009-10-15 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Hi multipolygon masters, How would you tag some island-rich Finnish lakes, for the one here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=62.1747&lon=28.6278&zoom=13&layers=B000FTF Currently big lakes in Finland have been tagged as coastlines which is a good workaround and looks correct in slippy maps. How

Re: [Tagging] Lakes, islands and multipolygons

2009-10-15 Thread Sam Vekemans
At least from what i understand... I wouldnt use the tag natural=coastline simply because coastline becomes confusing when your getting to the 'coast' where there are lots of islands.. im still working on it, but i do have a shp file for the islands (just not imported yet) http://www.openstreetma

[Tagging] kosher amenities

2009-10-15 Thread Edoardo 'Yossef' Marascalchi
Hi everybody, as i'm keeping a strict kosher life, i'm interested in mapping the kosher status of any food related amenity big_smile any restourant, butcher, ice cream shop, candy shop, bakery and so on could be a kosher place and i would be able to search kosher places near me. But there are ma

Re: [Tagging] kosher amenities

2009-10-15 Thread John Smith
2009/10/16 Edoardo 'Yossef' Marascalchi : > Hi everybody, > as i'm keeping a strict kosher life, i'm interested in mapping the > kosher status of any food related amenity big_smile > > any restourant, butcher, ice cream shop, candy shop, bakery and so on > could be a kosher place and i would be abl

Re: [Tagging] kosher amenities

2009-10-15 Thread Edoardo 'Yossef' Marascalchi
John Smith ha scritto: > There is no kosher tag there. > > there is now.. i just sent the mail before to add it .. :D > I'd just tag the place as: > > kosher=yes > hallal=yes > i don't know about hallal but there are many different kosher certifications. If you are ultra-orthodox you would'

Re: [Tagging] kosher amenities

2009-10-15 Thread John Smith
2009/10/16 Edoardo 'Yossef' Marascalchi : > John Smith ha scritto: >> There is no kosher tag there. >> >> > there is now.. i just sent the mail before to add it .. :D > >> I'd just tag the place as: >> >> kosher=yes >> hallal=yes >> > i don't know about hallal but there are many different kosher >