Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-23 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/23 Steve Bennett : > So, this suggestion: > > capital=4 > > ...is good. And a role relation for the city to its province/state/country > would be handy, too. I see it the same way and started to tag Italy with this scheme. For the whole centre and south I added capital=4 and capital=6 to t

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-23 Thread Steve Bennett
On 22/01/2011 1:38 AM, Lennard wrote: And what about the Seat of Government. Do we record that anywhere? This isn't always located in the country capital either. IMHO this discussion is a bit off base. OSM should not be a database of general facts about the world - there are much better places

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread Steve Doerr
As well as the other anomalies noted in this thread, there is the county of Surrey in the United Kingdom, whose capital (i.e. 'county town') is, thanks to boundary changes, no longer actually in Surrey! -- Steve ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@open

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/21 Peter Wendorff : > Hi. > As long as the DDR existed, Berlin was the capital of Germany, but not the > seat of government. > The government moved to Bonn meanwhile due to practical reasons (hard to > move to and from Western Berlin across the DDR etc.). yes, Berlin wasn't even part of th

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
population. For example, Nashville is termed the capital of Tennessee, because it is the seat of the state government, even though Memphis, Tennessee is larger, and has been larger for most of Tennessee's history. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals &

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:52 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > If you come up with a solution it would be nice to have a possibility > to record this not only on a national level but also for lower > administrative levels, e.g. for the government of a German Bundesland > (admin_level 4), i.e. fo

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/1/21 > I was a little surprised by this, until I looked up the definition of > capital given in Wikipedia (primary city, as opposed to seat of government). > In American usage, the capital of a nation or sub-national region is its > seat of government, whether or not that is the primary ci

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread john
population. For example, Nashville is termed the capital of Tennessee, because it is the seat of the state government, even though Memphis, Tennessee is larger, and has been larger for most of Tennessee's history. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/21 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer : > 2011/1/21 Lennard : > >> And what about the Seat of Government. Do we record that anywhere? This >> isn't always located in the country capital either. If you come up with a solution it would be nice to have a possibility to record this not only on a national lev

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/21 Lennard : > And what about the Seat of Government. Do we record that anywhere? This > isn't always located in the country capital either. AFAIK we don't. How did you tag "Den Haag"? I think we should indeed have a method to tag this. cheers, Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread Lennard
> OK, but where is the problem? You would tag Amsterdam with capital=yes > and Haarlem with capital=4. If you wanted to know which is the capital No problem, actually. I should have answered Simone directly, when he asked: >> I see a potential problem. Let's say there's a large admin level (say,

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/21 Lennard : > >> I'd say that this problem seems really "potential" and I don't expect >> this to happen at all, but who knows. You could check this by looking > > Amsterdam is the capital of The Netherlands (admin_level=2), but not of > the Province of Noord-Holland in which it is situated

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/21 Pieren : > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> >> Regional capitals are mostly not tagged at all with a capital key. I >> suggest to keep capital=yes for national capitals and use e.g. >> capital=4 for the capital of an admin_level=4 area. This would keep >>

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread Lennard
> I'd say that this problem seems really "potential" and I don't expect > this to happen at all, but who knows. You could check this by looking Amsterdam is the capital of The Netherlands (admin_level=2), but not of the Province of Noord-Holland in which it is situated. That's nearby Haarlem (adm

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > Regional capitals are mostly not tagged at all with a capital key. I > suggest to keep capital=yes for national capitals and use e.g. > capital=4 for the capital of an admin_level=4 area. This would keep > con

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/1/21 Simone Saviolo : > 2011/1/21 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > I see a potential problem. Let's say there's a large admin level (say, the > country) whose capital is *not* the capital of a lesser admin level it is > in. I'm not sure this actually happens anywhere, as usually, for example, > Rome is

Re: [Tagging] tagging capitals

2011-01-21 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/1/21 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > By looking at the wiki and taginfo, as well as some data as Cardiff / > Wales, it doesn't seem clear which way capitals should be tagged / are > currently tagged. > There is proposals to use capital=yes together with admin_level on a > node, there is the idea to ta