Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-30 Thread Paweł Paprota
Hi Johan, Here is another idea that Richard F. pointed me to on IRC: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-January/033557.html I strongly believe that some mix of what you are writing about, what Richard is writing about above, what Tag Central presentation contains and what many ot

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-30 Thread Johan Jönsson
I made a proposal page at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Awards_and_ratings with the proposed tagging award:= It seems general enough to handle most cases. ##Key:stars There is already a tagging-scheme in use for tagging hotels star-rating, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wi

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-29 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-07-29 13:19, Pieren wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Alan Mintz wrote: > I said nothing about "copying all Michelin rating[s]". We've been talking > about surveys and local knowledge from people seeing the ratings in the > window or advertising or word-of-mouth. But this is the d

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-29 Thread Pieren
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Alan Mintz wrote: > I said nothing about "copying all Michelin rating[s]". We've been talking > about surveys and local knowledge from people seeing the ratings in the > window or advertising or word-of-mouth. But this is the difference between seeing one fact and

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-27 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-07-27 15:23, Pieren wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: > Just to be clear, this is exactly the case I envision, and something our > crowd-source model should be good at - people seeing/knowing from local > knowledge that a restaurant has a certain star rating and r

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-27 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: > Just to be clear, this is exactly the case I envision, and something our > crowd-source model should be good at - people seeing/knowing from local > knowledge that a restaurant has a certain star rating and recording and > maintaining it in OSM.

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-27 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-07-27 00:37, Frederik Ramm wrote: But of course we weren't talking about the photo per se, but about the question whether you could put the rating in the OSM database, and I believe that even if the Michelin rating is displayed in a way so artful that it attracts copyright, the *fact* t

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 26.07.2012 um 23:29 schrieb Alan Mintz : > > > I suggest "award:=" +1 Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-27 Thread Volker Schmidt
Apart from the legal aspects, which exclude it anyway, I find it completely wrong to copy data statically into OSM that is by definition variable (TripAdvisor "awards" are automatically generated data from user input). Such data should not be inserted into the OSM database. A similar argument goes

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-27 Thread Johan Jönsson
Martijn van Exel rtijn.org> writes: > Linked data is not about linking to every possible source from one > source, but rather publishing your data as RDF thus allowing linkages > with other datasets. See here[1]. > I don't think it gets much attention in the OSM community, and I don't > claim to

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/27/2012 02:02 AM, Michael Kugelmann wrote: At least in Germany, a photographer may not photograph anything in public view and claim ownership; it is possible that photographing e.g. a work of art and then using that photo requires consent from the rights holder even though the object w

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-26 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 27.07.2012 00:11, schrieb Frederik Ramm: At least in Germany, a photographer may not photograph anything in public view and claim ownership; it is possible that photographing e.g. a work of art and then using that photo requires consent from the rights holder even though the object was in pu

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-26 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi, On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Apollinaris Schöll wrote: > Even linking is of questionable use. OSM should be turned into a replication > of the whole info available in the internet. soon we will have a single POI > with a link to Wikipedia, Michelin, Zagat, Facebook, their own native > hom

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 27.07.2012 00:28, Alan Mintz wrote: At least in Germany, a photographer may not photograph anything in public view and claim ownership; it is possible that photographing e.g. a work of art and then using that photo requires consent from the rights holder even though the object was in publ

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-26 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-07-26 15:11, Frederik Ramm wrote: On 26.07.2012 23:57, Alan Mintz wrote: It is possible that the organisation publishing the ratings has some sort of copyright or database right to them. For example I don't think it will be legal to copy TripAdvisor ratings into OSM. This may be an FAQ

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-26 Thread Apollinaris Schöll
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Johan Jönsson > wrote: > [..] > > example 1 > > Tripadvisor have some awards called Travelers' Choice > > If someone of some reason would like to tag that, they can use > > travelers_choice=top25

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 26.07.2012 23:57, Alan Mintz wrote: It is possible that the organisation publishing the ratings has some sort of copyright or database right to them. For example I don't think it will be legal to copy TripAdvisor ratings into OSM. This may be an FAQ, but if a shop posts their awards in

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-26 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi, On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Johan Jönsson wrote: [..] > example 1 > Tripadvisor have some awards called Travelers' Choice > If someone of some reason would like to tag that, they can use > travelers_choice=top25 / best_service I think it's better to just link to the TripAdvisor page. I

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-26 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-07-26 14:43, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 26.07.2012 19:10, Johan Jönsson wrote: Sometimes there is a discussion on how to tag differnt kind of awards and ratings. It is possible that the organisation publishing the ratings has some sort of copyright or database right to them. For exa

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 26.07.2012 19:10, Johan Jönsson wrote: Sometimes there is a discussion on how to tag differnt kind of awards and ratings. It is possible that the organisation publishing the ratings has some sort of copyright or database right to them. For example I don't think it will be legal to cop

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-26 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-07-26 10:10, Johan =?utf-8?b?SsO2bnNzb24=?= wrote: Sometimes there is a discussion on how to tag differnt kind of awards and ratings. ... It is basically like this = With a catchy name for the award_system as key and for each award_system there could be a list of values ... example 4 In

Re: [Tagging] tagging awards and ratings

2012-07-26 Thread LM_1
In my opinion there should be some common prefix (award, rating, does not really matter). That way it is clear what it means even if one does not know that particular rating system. That would probably not be the case with Michelin stars, but most rating systems are less famous. With prefix a sensi