Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Aug 21, 2013 3:41 AM, "André Pirard" wrote: > As there seems to be no tagging specific to the part of the public highway which is an area extending from its line (way) to the private properties, I made it an area with the same tagging as the road, except for what makes no sense as the speed li

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-23 Thread André Pirard
On 2013-08-22 14:59, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : > > > Il giorno 22/ago/2013, alle ore 14:34, André Pirard > mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>> ha scritto: > >> this area is definitely mainly *suitable* for cars to use, and used >> as such, much as you would think of a rest area. There is no kerb, >

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-22 Thread fly
Am 22.08.2013 02:56, schrieb André Pirard: > On 2013-08-21 17:50, fly wrote : >> Am 21.08.2013 15:13, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: >>> Il giorno 21/ago/2013, alle ore 13:35, fly >>> ha scritto: Pleas, do not start to tag these small areas as closedways/multipolygon. >>> reasoning? >> I

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 22/ago/2013, alle ore 14:34, André Pirard ha scritto: > this area is definitely mainly suitable for cars to use, and used as such, > much as you would think of a rest area. There is no kerb, just a caniveau > (gutter) for easy crossing over, there is a postbox used by passing-by ca

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-22 Thread André Pirard
On 2013-08-21 11:31, Pieren wrote : > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:38 AM, André Pirard > > As there seems to be no tagging specific to the part of the public > highway which is an area extending from its line (way) to the > private properties, I made it an area with the same tagging as th

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-21 Thread André Pirard
On 2013-08-21 17:50, fly wrote : > Am 21.08.2013 15:13, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: >> Il giorno 21/ago/2013, alle ore 13:35, fly >> ha scritto: >>> Pleas, do not start to tag these small areas as >>> closedways/multipolygon. >> reasoning? > It is clustering the map, hard to split and all edito

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-21 Thread fly
Am 21.08.2013 15:13, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > > Il giorno 21/ago/2013, alle ore 13:35, fly ha > scritto: > >> Pleas, do not start to tag these small areas as closedways/multipolygon. > > > reasoning? It is clustering the map, hard to split and all editors I know do better work with

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 21/ago/2013, alle ore 13:35, fly ha scritto: > Pleas, do not start to tag these small areas as closedways/multipolygon. reasoning? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-21 Thread fly
Am 21.08.2013 11:31, schrieb Pieren: > First, "area=yes" implies that vehicules can move in all directions. > Here you place is just large as one car is long. > Then the "highway=secondary" is not appropriate since the area is > clearly not intended for the secondary road network. You could possib

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-21 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:38 AM, André Pirard As there seems to be no tagging specific to the part of the public highway > which is an area extending from its line (way) to the private properties, I > made it an area with the same tagging as the road, except for what makes no > sense as the spee

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-21 Thread André Pirard
On 2013-08-19 21:27, André Pirard wrote : > On 2013-08-19 15:37, Tod Fitch wrote : >> On Aug 19, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Craig Wallace wrote: >>> Sounds like you mean the "shoulder". See >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder It should usually be >>> tagged as an attribute on the highway, not ma

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-20 Thread Kytömaa Lauri
>connecting the driveways to the road, which they don't The driveways do connect to the road, even up to the center line, just as much as normal roads connect through each other in every intersection. All roads and paths are both: a surface, and a connection. It's an inherent consequence of th

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-19 Thread André Pirard
On 2013-08-19 15:37, Tod Fitch wrote : On Aug 19, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Craig Wallace wrote: Sounds like you mean the "shoulder". See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder It should usually be tagged as an attribute on the highway, not ma

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-19 Thread SomeoneElse
Tod Fitch wrote: Except that I think in the UK they might call it the verge so we might have a dialect issue. In the UK "verge" normally means a patch of grass at the side of a road, but if it's a paved area at the side of the motorway that's usually called the "hard shoulder". Cheers, A

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-19 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2013-08-19 14:37, Tod Fitch wrote: On Aug 19, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Craig Wallace wrote: Sounds like you mean the "shoulder". See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder It should usually be tagged as an attribute on the highway, not mapped as a separate way or area. Craig +1 Except

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-19 Thread Brad Neuhauser
for better or worse, shoulder has ~1500 uses, verge has zero. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=shoulder On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: > On Aug 19, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Craig Wallace wrote: > > > > > Sounds like you mean the "shoulder". See > http://wiki.openstreetmap.

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-19 Thread Tod Fitch
On Aug 19, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Craig Wallace wrote: > > Sounds like you mean the "shoulder". See > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shoulder > > It should usually be tagged as an attribute on the highway, not mapped as a > separate way or area. > > Craig > +1 Except that I think in the UK

Re: [Tagging] road side

2013-08-19 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2013-08-19 00:24, André Pirard wrote: Hi, There are many wiki articles mentioning the road side and tagging what's on it, e. g.parking. But I couldn't find how to tag a plain road side itself. It is not part of the roadway (chaussée) but it's part of the public highway (voie publique). Often