Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Steve Doerr wrote: > UN convention, apparently: > > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2011-September/008578.html > Well, this would qualify a decent number of bike

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Hubert wrote: > Thanks for the link. > > I agree for „lanes=*“. > > > > But “*:lanes=*” is still a different story. One could also use “*:lanes=*” > on segregated foot- and cycleways. For example > > highway=path > > degregated=yes > > bicycle=designated > > bicyc

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-29 Thread Hubert
>On 29. Oktober 2015 10:34 Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] wrote: > > Bicycle lanes are lanes of travel, This depends on your definition of “lanes” > and may or may not be exclusive to bicycle traffic, and may or may not be the > outermost lane of travel. Agreed. But what exac

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-29 Thread Hubert
this example is pretty trivial. Hubert87 From: Steve Doerr [mailto:doerr.step...@gmail.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2015 12:21 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle UN convention, apparently: https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-29 Thread Steve Doerr
UN convention, apparently: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2011-September/008578.html Steve On 13/10/2015 12:40, Paul Johnson wrote: But why? It seems tools aren't expecting lanes tags with more lanes than in the lanes count. Seems exceptionally arbitrary and very incompl

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Hubert wrote: > I'm sorry Paul, but I still don't understand what your issue is exactly. > Do you get an error message or similar in JOSM? What do you mean by > "drafting out the lanes"? > And in OSMAND the only "lane rendering" I know of is when you enable "Show

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-21 Thread Hubert
I'm sorry Paul, but I still don't understand what your issue is exactly. Do you get an error message or similar in JOSM? What do you mean by "drafting out the lanes"? And in OSMAND the only "lane rendering" I know of is when you enable "Show lanes" for routing purposes. Is that what you mean? Cou

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
Sure, when you're drafting out the lanes in JOSM or rendering them in Osmand, your lane counts are off by however many bike lanes there are if you don't explicitly map them in the lanes count and tag accordingly. On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Hubert wrote: > Hey Paul, > > I couldn’t find a pr

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-18 Thread Hubert
Hey Paul, I couldn’t find a problem with JOSM (Validator and „Lanes and Road Attributes“) or OsmAnd (rendering and routing bicycles and cars) on this [1] section of road where I have mapped “lanes=2” and “bicycle:lanes” with a “lane” count of 4, due to a weird bus stop. (bicycle:lanes=use_sidepath

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-16 Thread Paul Johnson
double-tracked motor vehicles in mind. > > Also, what tools are you talking about? > > > > *From:* Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] > *Sent:* Dienstag, 13. Oktober 2015 13:40 > *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.o

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-13 Thread Warin
where most people want their data. It also does not count foot 'lanes'. Also, what tools are you talking about? *From:*Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] *Sent:* Dienstag, 13. Oktober 2015 13:40 *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools *Subject:* Re: [Tag

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-13 Thread Hubert
...@ursamundi.org] Sent: Dienstag, 13. Oktober 2015 13:40 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle But why? It seems tools aren't expecting lanes tags with more lanes than in the lanes count. Seems exceptio

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-13 Thread Paul Johnson
But why? It seems tools aren't expecting lanes tags with more lanes than in the lanes count. Seems exceptionally arbitrary and very incomplete to count only lanes that a sedan can use. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Hubert wrote: > Hey Paul, > > > > „lanes=*“[1] is for the total number of ca

Re: [Tagging] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

2015-10-13 Thread Hubert
Hey Paul, „lanes=*“[1] is for the total number of car traffic lanes and should not be confused with the “:lanes” suffix [2]. So “highway=* + oneway=yes + lanes=2 + cycleway=lane” is correct. However, your motor_vehicle:lanes=yes|no|yes bicycle:lanes=yes|designated|yes is correct, too.