Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-12-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/12/29 "Petr Morávek [Xificurk]" : > The tag place=neighbourhood should be applied to a part of a bigger part > of settlement where this part is smaller then a quarter, while a quarter > itself is a part of a place=suburb. > > It would be helpful to clarify that the whole hierarchy does not nee

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-12-29 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
Martin Koppenhoefer napsal(a): >> Well, personally I would be glad if we could change the definition to >> something like "smallest inhabited entity in the division hierarchy of >> larger settlement". >> I would like to use this tag for rural areas, i.e. named parts of >> villages, because place=su

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-12-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/12/29 "Petr Morávek [Xificurk]" : > Josh Doe napsal(a): >> Martin, what would you say to putting this up for a vote now? +1, see parallel announcement > Well, personally I would be glad if we could change the definition to > something like "smallest inhabited entity in the division hierarc

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-12-29 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
Josh Doe napsal(a): > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> There is a 'new' (formalized) proposal for place=neighbourhood. >> >> More details here: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/place%3Dneighbourhood >> >> Waiting for comments especially for t

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-12-29 Thread Josh Doe
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > There is a 'new' (formalized) proposal for place=neighbourhood. > > More details here: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/place%3Dneighbourhood > > Waiting for comments especially for the aspect, that you could appl

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-09-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
(crossposted to talk-us) On 9/2/2011 3:30 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On 09/01/2011 12:01 AM, Stephen Hope wrote: On 1 September 2011 11:41, Nathan Edgars II wrote: In the US, the problem is that address place names depend on which post office serves the area, and there is no freely available acc

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-09-02 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 09/01/2011 12:01 AM, Stephen Hope wrote: On 1 September 2011 11:41, Nathan Edgars II wrote: In the US, the problem is that address place names depend on which post office serves the area, and there is no freely available accurate data showing this. Many suburban areas outside Orlando city li

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-09-01 Thread Stephen Hope
On 1 September 2011 11:41, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > In the US, the problem is that address place names depend on which post > office serves the area, and there is no freely available accurate data > showing this. Many suburban areas outside Orlando city limits have Orlando > in the address, and t

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Richard Welty
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 21:41 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > Many suburban areas outside Orlando city limits have > Orlando in the address, and there are some cases where a place in city A > uses an address that is not city A. i'd argue that this is common. when the US post office sets up routes,

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 21:41 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 8/31/2011 9:27 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: > > Brad, > > > > Where I live, suburbs are well known, have fixed borders (though they > > can be and are sometimes adjusted), and are part of your address > > according to the post office and lo

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 8/31/2011 9:27 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: Brad, Where I live, suburbs are well known, have fixed borders (though they can be and are sometimes adjusted), and are part of your address according to the post office and local government. In the US, the problem is that address place names depend on

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Stephen Hope
Brad, Where I live, suburbs are well known, have fixed borders (though they can be and are sometimes adjusted), and are part of your address according to the post office and local government. They are part of a larger residential area, which may be a city or town. Villages don't have multiple sub

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 06:43 -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote: > The same situations occur in the USA. Neighborhood names can also > shift over time. My neighborhood shows up on maps as "Murray > Heights", probably dating back to the original real-estate development > in the 1950's. In the 19 years

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Phil! Gold
* Martin Koppenhoefer [2011-08-30 17:01 +0200]: > Waiting for comments especially for the aspect, that you could apply > this tag to all kind of settlement fractions including commercial and > industrial (and of course mixed) areas. I guess the wording > "neighbourhood" does suggest other. The pr

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/31 Brad Neuhauser : > First off, I like this proposal too and think it's a long time coming. > > But, some references made me go and read the place=suburb wiki page again, > and that tag seems very similar, so can that distinction be clarified?  That > is, why would one choose suburb over ci

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Josh Doe
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 7:43 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > "Dave F." wrote: > >> On 31/08/2011 02:04, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: >> > I encourage use of this type of tag /primarily/ on /nodes/. >> > The boundaries in most case are far too fluid to use this on areas. >> >> I tend to agree with Bryce. Qu

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Brad Neuhauser
First off, I like this proposal too and think it's a long time coming. But, some references made me go and read the place=suburb wiki page again, and that tag seems very similar, so can that distinction be clarified? That is, why would one choose suburb over city/town/village or neighbourhood? Th

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/31 John F. Eldredge : > "Dave F." wrote: >> On 31/08/2011 02:04, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: >> > I encourage use of this type of tag /primarily/ on /nodes/. >> > The boundaries in most case are far too fluid to use this on areas. >> I tend to agree with Bryce. Quite often in the UK there are >> d

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread John F. Eldredge
"Dave F." wrote: > On 31/08/2011 02:04, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > I encourage use of this type of tag /primarily/ on /nodes/. > > The boundaries in most case are far too fluid to use this on areas. > > I tend to agree with Bryce. Quite often in the UK there are > disagreements where suburbs/neigh

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-31 Thread Dave F.
On 31/08/2011 02:04, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I encourage use of this type of tag /primarily/ on /nodes/. The boundaries in most case are far too fluid to use this on areas. I tend to agree with Bryce. Quite often in the UK there are disagreements where suburbs/neighbourhoods boundaries occur. The

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-30 Thread Josh Doe
Thanks for doing this, looks good to me! -Josh On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > There is a 'new' (formalized) proposal for place=neighbourhood. > > More details here: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/place%3Dneighbourhood > > Waiting for comment

Re: [Tagging] RFC: place=neighbourhood

2011-08-30 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On 08/30/2011 08:01 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: There is a 'new' (formalized) proposal for place=neighbourhood. More details here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/place%3Dneighbourhood Waiting for comments especially for the aspect, that you could apply this tag to all k