Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-09 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 09.08.2018 o 08:40, Christoph Hormann pisze: > No, as i have written and explained this is fundamentally wrong. But it > is a nice summary of the base dogma of the "everything is a polygon" > fraction in OSM. To be honest, the world is 4D, not just 2D, but OSM is not well-suited to reflec

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-08 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 09 August 2018, Daniel Koc4� wrote: > > I like real life detailed data, but even in theory it's clear for me > that while people might want some points, they are just what I've > said - generalizations. [...] No, as i have written and explained this is fundamentally wrong. But it is

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-08 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 07.08.2018 o 15:24, Christoph Hormann pisze: > I think you have not understood the difference between measurement > tolerance and convergence here. I'm not sure what do you mean by "convergence", but there's no measurement tolerance problem, because without accepting area as a base and wit

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Wow, thanks Martin - amazing stuff Thanks Graeme On 8 August 2018 at 23:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > On 8. Aug 2018, at 05:24, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The centre of a place is a little cultural, a little of frequent use and a > little from signs.m

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8. Aug 2018, at 05:24, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The centre of a place is a little cultural, a little of frequent use and a > little from signs.m I’ve written 2 diary entries about the centres of Rome and Berlin, maybe it is of interest in this context:

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
> The centre of a place is a little cultural, a little of frequent use and a > little from signs. > In Europe I suspect it is the railway station ..lots of signs pointing there. > In rural Australia I would go with the post office, though the pub is quite > popular. :) In Belgium I would assume

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-08 Thread djakk djakk
For cities there must be a point associated to the polygon to tell where the center is (maybe 2 if the city is poly centric, like Budapest maybe ?) djakk Le mer. 8 août 2018 à 05:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit : > On 08/08/18 12:52, Bill Ricker wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-07 Thread Warin
On 08/08/18 12:52, Bill Ricker wrote: On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 7 August 2018 at 21:56, Daniel Koć mailto:daniel@ko%C4%87.pl>> wrote: For example nobody would say that a city is a point I'm not disagre

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-07 Thread Bill Ricker
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On 7 August 2018 at 21:56, Daniel Koć wrote: > >> >> For example nobody would say that a city is a point > > > I'm not disagreeing with you, but people do refer to them, & somehow even > measure them, as points! > > I'm sure that

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-07 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 7 August 2018 at 21:56, Daniel Koć wrote: > > For example nobody would say that a city is a point I'm not disagreeing with you, but people do refer to them, & somehow even measure them, as points! I'm sure that you have the same situation in your country but an e.g. is my State capital, Bri

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-07 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 07 August 2018, Daniel Koc4� wrote: > > A word regarding tolerance of coordinates and the implication that > > they should be or have to be within the tolerance of measuring > > devices - i don't think this is or should be the case. The point > > of verifiability in OSM is not a toleran

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-07 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > > The problem of how much continents there is and how are they named, is > just parallel - it's > equally valid problem for points and areas. Just to add to the confusion, the attribution of a location to a continent depends upon context, eve