Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/9 Pieren > I agree with you but they are already in the database, e.g. the Alps: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2698607 > yes, I am aware of that, but decided to ignore them. My guess is that they will soon be broken and repeatedly be broken until at some point it will b

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 09.10.2013 19:13, schrieb Pieren: I agree with you but they are already in the database, e.g. the Alps: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2698607 In fact that's a pretty good example for me: I think the line is at least off by a few kilometers near the western part of the German

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Michael Krämer wrote: > Regarding the idea itself I agree with Martin: I do not think something > large scale and fuzzy like the Black Forest should be mapped in the database > at all. If you think about this a bit longer it would totally be reasonable > to create

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 09.10.2013 16:32, schrieb Pieren: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Michael Krämer wrote: Another starting point could be the following (abandoned) proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Region and its discussion page. Bad idea. Replace "region" by "boundary" or "mult

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
btw.: here you can find maps with the natural regions (apparently complete) of Germany in 1:200.000. There is a copyright hint: © ehemaliges Institut für Landeskunde, mit freundlicher Genehmigung des Bundesinstituts für Bau-, Stadt- und Raumforschung

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/9 Tobias > > It might be a better idea to start a parallel project (e.g. with > shapefiles > > in a more adequate scale), e.g. starting with natural earths physical > > dataset and adding translations and refinements. This dataset could be > > crowdsourced and distributed in a license com

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Tobias
> this is a topic discussed several times in precedence, you can find > discussions here and also on talk-de (your email suggests you understand > German). I read the last discussion about "natural"/"mapping large areas" a little bit. Actually my preparation was mainly based on the missing cont

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Michael Krämer wrote: > Another starting point could be the following (abandoned) proposal > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Region and its > discussion page. Bad idea. Replace "region" by "boundary" or "multipolygon" and you get it. Not reall

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Tobias
>>> this is a topic discussed several times in precedence, you can find >>> discussions here and also on talk-de (your email suggests you understand >>> German). >>> >>> Another starting point could be the following (abandoned) proposal >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Regio

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/9 Michael Krämer > 2013/10/9 Martin Koppenhoefer > >> this is a topic discussed several times in precedence, you can find >> discussions here and also on talk-de (your email suggests you understand >> German). >> >> Another starting point could be the following (abandoned) proposal > htt

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Michael Krämer
2013/10/9 Martin Koppenhoefer > this is a topic discussed several times in precedence, you can find > discussions here and also on talk-de (your email suggests you understand > German). > > Another starting point could be the following (abandoned) proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relat

Re: [Tagging] Mapping the Black Forest

2013-10-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/9 Tobias > Do you have any suggestions for the tagging? this is a topic discussed several times in precedence, you can find discussions here and also on talk-de (your email suggests you understand German). Basically our data model is not very suited to tag large areas, and these topo