Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 08 lug 2016, alle ore 00:27, Michael Reichert ha > scritto: > > In Germany there are ref_name=* and uic_name=* in use. (We have the same > problem) thank you for pointing to this. Maybe the definition can be improved, I find it hard to understand, currently it

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Il giorno 07 lug 2016, alle ore 16:51, Tijmen Stam ha scritto: >> The tag should be modeled on existing tags that already >> handle that. > > Except they don't. official_name? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@op

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-07 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 07.07.2016 um 08:19 schrieb Colin Smale: > You could use "long_name" to provide a version of the name which > includes the discriminators In Germany there are ref_name=* and uic_name=* in use. (We have the same problem) Best regards Michael -- Per E-Mail kommuniziere ich bevorzugt

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-07 Thread Tijmen Stam
>> On Jul 7, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Tijmen Stam wrote: >> >> No, that's not at all what I mean! >> >> It's the place the stop is _in_. > > Yea, I know. > > But it is the same idea : turn here for Los Angeles. > > Get off here for downtown los angeles. Either we don't understand or we don't agree, but

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-07 Thread John Willis
> On Jul 7, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Tijmen Stam wrote: > > No, that's not at all what I mean! > > It's the place the stop is _in_. Yea, I know. But it is the same idea : turn here for Los Angeles. Get off here for downtown los angeles. Maybe the exit signs that list the road, exit number *an

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-07 Thread Jo
Did you have a look at that sketch line diagram? It looks like what you'd find in the bus timetable guide. True, it's not what you'll find on most of the flags in the field. Here is another line that passes 3 times by a stop called Oud-Station (that meanse former railway station): http://overpass

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-07 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Jo wrote: > > And I know it's possible to deduce those village names from the geometries, > but we don't all have geodatabase functionality available all of the time, > to make that calculation over and over, and over again. We do not repeat the name of the town in

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 07 lug 2016, alle ore 09:14, Tijmen Stam ha > scritto: > > Another example near me is where the two stops are in different > municipalities, despite that both stops are called placename Diemen by the > transport company. would this be resolvable with place po

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 07 lug 2016, alle ore 08:27, Marc Gemis ha > scritto: > > put > some others thought it would be nice to have the same name as in the > timetable books. while I'm not sure you can legally do this, a natural tag to put this would be official_name (or even timeta

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-07 Thread Jo
The reason why I propose to add the placename as part of the name, is that it gives a feedback about the correct order of the stops: http://overpass-api.de/api/sketch-line?network=DLVB&ref=5&operator= On the second line of that diagram, you can see: Haasrode Kerk Haasrode Kerkstraat Blanden Kerk

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-07 Thread Tijmen Stam
On 07-07-16 08:15, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 07/07/2016 08:04 AM, Tijmen Stam wrote: It's the place the stop is _in_. We usually resolve such issues by looking at the surrounding administrative area polygons. You will see that, for example, we have long since stopped tagging a village with

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-06 Thread Colin Smale
On 2016-07-07 08:15, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 07/07/2016 08:04 AM, Tijmen Stam wrote: > >> It's the place the stop is _in_. > > We usually resolve such issues by looking at the surrounding > administrative area polygons. You will see that, for example, we have > long since stopped tag

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-06 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Tijmen Stam wrote: > For example: > - in most of rural Belgium, " " is used (as in > http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/59518#map=17/51.23869/4.57898&layers=T) There was some kind of vote on the Belgian mailing list a few years ago to chose between just "" or "

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-06 Thread Colin Smale
We don't do it for street names... There is a High Street in every town and we seem to survive... You could use geolocation or your own geometry to find the place enclosing (or nearest to) the stop You could use the is_in tag to provide this information (not sure about the status of this tag)

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/07/2016 08:04 AM, Tijmen Stam wrote: > It's the place the stop is _in_. We usually resolve such issues by looking at the surrounding administrative area polygons. You will see that, for example, we have long since stopped tagging a village with "is_in=CountyA,StateB,CountryC" because th

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-06 Thread Tijmen Stam
On 07-07-16 01:28, John Willis wrote: On Jul 7, 2016, at 6:39 AM, Tijmen Stam wrote: 1. a "placename" (or "place") tag for stop_position, platform and stop_area. I notice that most public transport companies have a somewhat separate idea of a place name and a stop name. This sounds like

Re: [Tagging] Additions to public_transport scheme

2016-07-06 Thread John Willis
> On Jul 7, 2016, at 6:39 AM, Tijmen Stam wrote: > > 1. a "placename" (or "place") tag for stop_position, platform and stop_area. > I notice that most public transport companies have a somewhat separate idea > of a place name and a stop name. This sounds like the destination names on road si