Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
Philip Barnes wrote: > On Sat, 2013-02-16 at 22:22 +, Chris Hill wrote: > > On 16/02/13 20:28, John F. Eldredge wrote: > > > Deanna Earley wrote: > > > > > >> On 07/02/2013 09:49, o...@raggedred.net wrote: > > >>> A tower, to this Brit, can be confused with the stone or brick > thing > > >>>

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-17 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-02-16 at 22:22 +, Chris Hill wrote: > On 16/02/13 20:28, John F. Eldredge wrote: > > Deanna Earley wrote: > > > >> On 07/02/2013 09:49, o...@raggedred.net wrote: > >>> A tower, to this Brit, can be confused with the stone or brick thing > >>> on the end of a church or castle > >>

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-16 Thread Chris Hill
On 16/02/13 20:28, John F. Eldredge wrote: Deanna Earley wrote: On 07/02/2013 09:49, o...@raggedred.net wrote: A tower, to this Brit, can be confused with the stone or brick thing on the end of a church or castle Especially as another well known mapping agency over here has 3 different churc

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
Deanna Earley wrote: > On 07/02/2013 09:49, o...@raggedred.net wrote: > > A tower, to this Brit, can be confused with the stone or brick thing > > on the end of a church or castle > > Especially as another well known mapping agency over here has 3 > different church symbols, "Church", "Church w

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-16 Thread Deanna Earley
On 07/02/2013 09:49, o...@raggedred.net wrote: A tower, to this Brit, can be confused with the stone or brick thing on the end of a church or castle Especially as another well known mapping agency over here has 3 different church symbols, "Church", "Church with tower" and "Church with spire"

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/7 Jonathan Bennett : > On 07/02/2013 11:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> but: there are antennas where the whole structure acts as antenna >> (mast=antenna). Maybe this is an example: > > Yes, but unless you can explain, unambiguously how you identify those > vs. other types of mask, you're

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/7 Philip Barnes : > I think that a tower has some means, such as stairs to climb it, so that > covers things like the eiffel tower, I would also include a fire station > tower in this, many are steel girder structures, but have stairs. +1, but also masts might have some kind of ladder or s

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-07 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 07/02/2013 11:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > but: there are antennas where the whole structure acts as antenna > (mast=antenna). Maybe this is an example: Yes, but unless you can explain, unambiguously how you identify those vs. other types of mask, you're going to hit a verifiability problem

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-07 Thread Philip Barnes
I think that a tower has some means, such as stairs to climb it, so that covers things like the eiffel tower, I would also include a fire station tower in this, many are steel girder structures, but have stairs. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 07/02/2013 10:56 ael wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 20

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/7 ael : > In the UK English, the word tower without context would usually suggest > a stone, often historic, structure. but that's why we do put context to man_made=tower (e.g. with tower:type and tower:construction) http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/tower:type http://taginfo.openstree

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/7 Jonathan Bennett : > On 06/02/2013 20:59, fly wrote: >> What we call man_made=mast is still a tower and man_made=antenna should be >> mast, >> where as antennas are only the transmitter/receiver. > > To this British English speaker: > > Tower == any self-supporting structure, irrespective

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-07 Thread ael
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 06:47:03PM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: > In UK English, the word "aerial" is used instead of "antenna". > > I have the impression, not well substantiated, that what I would call a > tower in the US is often called a mast in the UK, particularly if it is > not particularly tal

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-07 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM, John Sturdy wrote: > +1 --- for me (UK English), "tower" implies brickwork or stone. Not always :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_Tower Pieren ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.opens

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-07 Thread John Sturdy
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:49 AM, wrote: > The local TV and radio here is broadcast from Belmont. The structure is often > called Belmont mast, as are other tall broadcast structures. Belmont mast was > until 2007 the tallest structure in the UK, so size is not the key. It is > guyed. A mast ca

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-07 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 06/02/2013 20:59, fly wrote: > What we call man_made=mast is still a tower and man_made=antenna should be > mast, > where as antennas are only the transmitter/receiver. To this British English speaker: Tower == any self-supporting structure, irrespective of material or purpose Mast == Usuall

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-07 Thread osm
Greg Troxel >In UK English, the word "aerial" is used instead of "antenna". IMO aerial is more the thing on a small device or the receiving antenna on a house roof. > >I have the impression, not well substantiated, that what I would call a >tower in the US is often called a mast in the UK,

Re: [Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-06 Thread Greg Troxel
fly writes: > I was trying to get a common tower preset working for JOSM [1], when I > started reading about the terms on wikipedia (english). > > As I am not a native speaker, I like to ask natives about there > thoughts but as far as I understood it. > > What we call man_made=mast is still a t

[Tagging] tower vs mast vs antenna

2013-02-06 Thread fly
Hi I was trying to get a common tower preset working for JOSM [1], when I started reading about the terms on wikipedia (english). As I am not a native speaker, I like to ask natives about there thoughts but as far as I understood it. What we call man_made=mast is still a tower and man_made=ante