Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-10 Thread Alex Mauer
On 05/06/2010 07:30 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: > I've never heard anyone in Australia refer to Kmart or Target as a > "discount" store. I have heard this word used for, say, "Crazy Clarks" > or "Dollars and Sense". But I would have trouble objectively defining > what it is, exactly, that makes "Crazy C

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-07 Thread John Smith
On 7 May 2010 18:15, Stephen Hope wrote: > Hmm, to me there are three levels. Isn't the english language wonderful, you ask people from different natively speaking english backgrounds what something means and you end up with almost a different answer each time, although I'm guessing this problem

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-07 Thread Stephen Hope
Hmm, to me there are three levels. Crazy Clarks is bargain/discount Target, KMart are downmarket DJ's etc are upmarket How should we tag a factory outlet type store that sell's upmarket stuff at lower prices? I can easily find stores that sell every product at a very reduced price, but still don

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 May 2010 10:30, Roy Wallace wrote: > I've never heard anyone in Australia refer to Kmart or Target as a > "discount" store. I have heard this word used for, say, "Crazy Clarks" > or "Dollars and Sense". But I would have trouble objectively defining > what it is, exactly, that makes "Crazy Cla

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/6/10 8:30 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: > > I disagree that there's "broad agreement" here on what stores are > "discount" stores. > > I've never heard anyone in Australia refer to Kmart or Target as a > "discount" store. I have heard this word used for, say, "Crazy Clarks" > or "Dollars and Sense".

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 7:13 AM, John Smith wrote: > >> well, yes, but within the US at least, i think there's broad agreement >> that one tier of department >> store (walmart, kmart, target) is "discount" with respect to another >> (macys, pennys, nordstrom, etc.) > > The same thing is true of Aus

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Liz
On Fri, 7 May 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 7 May 2010 07:03, Richard Welty wrote: > > well, yes, but within the US at least, i think there's broad agreement > > that one tier of department > > store (walmart, kmart, target) is "discount" with respect to another > > (macys, pennys, nordstrom, > > e

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 May 2010 07:03, Richard Welty wrote: > well, yes, but within the US at least, i think there's broad agreement > that one tier of department > store (walmart, kmart, target) is "discount" with respect to another > (macys, pennys, nordstrom, > etc.) The same thing is true of Australia... Altho

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/6/10 4:52 PM, Liz wrote: > On Thu, 6 May 2010, Richard Welty wrote: > >> On 5/6/10 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >>> This leads to a new proposal: discount=yes to discriminate >>> discounters. Could be used in addition for supermarkets, department >>> stores and maybe others

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Liz
On Thu, 6 May 2010, Richard Welty wrote: > On 5/6/10 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > This leads to a new proposal: discount=yes to discriminate > > discounters. Could be used in addition for supermarkets, department > > stores and maybe others. > > usable with any shop= where appropriate?

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Katie Filbert
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I see. The type of discout stores we have here (there should be some > wallmart as well, but I personally never encountered one) usually are > mainly for food and have just occasionally some non-food articles > (maybe 2-5% of their flo

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
rtin Koppenhoefer To: John Eldredge To: OpenStreetMap tagging mailing list ReplyTo: m...@koppenhoefer.com Subject: Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US Sent: May 6, 2010 7:47 AM 2010/5/6 John F. Eldredge : > From my experience (in the USA), most WalMarts and KMarts only allocate a >

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/6/10 9:15 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > This leads to a new proposal: discount=yes to discriminate > discounters. Could be used in addition for supermarkets, department > stores and maybe others. > usable with any shop= where appropriate? i can see that. richard ___

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 Richard Welty : > most of these stores devote no more than 5 or 10% of their floorspace to > food, and are otherwise inexpensive department stores, and i'm certainly > having trouble seeing how 10% of their stock overrides the other 90% when > it comes to tagging. I see. The type of disc

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/6/10 8:47 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/5/6 John F. Eldredge: > >> From my experience (in the USA), most WalMarts and KMarts only allocate a >> small percentage of their floor space to groceries. The so-called "super >> WalMarts" have a full range of groceries; even so, the gro

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 John F. Eldredge : > From my experience (in the USA), most WalMarts and KMarts only allocate a > small percentage of their floor space to groceries.  The so-called "super > WalMarts" have a full range of groceries; even so, the grocery section takes > up only 20 percent or so of the sto

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
--Original Message-- From: John Smith Sender: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org To: OpenStreetMap tagging mailing list ReplyTo: OpenStreetMap tagging mailing list Subject: Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US Sent: May 6, 2010 4:43 AM On 6 May 2010 19:27, Richard Mann wrote: >

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/5/6 John Smith : > On 6 May 2010 19:27, Richard Mann > wrote: >> In the UK, they'd almost certainly be tagged as supermarkets, since >> our stores tend to have one product area dominant (eg groceries). >> Department stores are large shops with lots of different departments >> selling lots of

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread John Smith
On 6 May 2010 19:27, Richard Mann wrote: > In the UK, they'd almost certainly be tagged as supermarkets, since > our stores tend to have one product area dominant (eg groceries). > Department stores are large shops with lots of different departments > selling lots of different things from lots of

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Mann
In the UK, they'd almost certainly be tagged as supermarkets, since our stores tend to have one product area dominant (eg groceries). Department stores are large shops with lots of different departments selling lots of different things from lots of different counters, but the staff (and the tills)

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 May 2010 11:59, Katie Filbert wrote: > Though, many Targets and Super Walmarts have large grocery sections, so they > could also get shop=supermarket, and there might be a McDonalds, Pizza Hut > or Taco Bell Express, and other things. Thus, we have the issue with how to > assign multiple val

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-05 Thread Katie Filbert
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > by discount store, i mean the largish stores like WalMart, Target, K > Mart, etc. > > they really don't quite seem to go as department_store, but also seem large > for the value general. what are people typically using? > > I would tag them as

Re: [Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-05 Thread John Smith
On 6 May 2010 11:24, Richard Welty wrote: > they really don't quite seem to go as department_store, but also seem large > for the value general. what are people typically using? shop=department_store seems to fit to me: "A single large store - often multiple storeys high - selling a large variet

[Tagging] tagging for discount stores in US

2010-05-05 Thread Richard Welty
by discount store, i mean the largish stores like WalMart, Target, K Mart, etc. they really don't quite seem to go as department_store, but also seem large for the value general. what are people typically using? richard ___ Tagging mailing list Taggi