Re: [Tagging] motorcar definition changed recently

2018-10-03 Thread SelfishSeahorse
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 11:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I have tried to fix the picture and found, that there are now 2 distinct > traffic signs, one is for all 2-tracked motor vehicles, including cars: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Germany#/media/File:Zeichen_251_-_Verbot_für

Re: [Tagging] motorcar definition changed recently

2018-10-03 Thread Allroads
efits than others. A better hierarchy structure is needed. So the definition have to be changed once again. Regards Allroads From: SelfishSeahorse Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 10:03 AM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] motorc

Re: [Tagging] motorcar definition changed recently

2018-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I have tried to fix the picture and found, that there are now 2 distinct traffic signs, one is for all 2-tracked motor vehicles, including cars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Germany#/media/File:Zeichen_251_-_Verbot_für_Kraftwagen_und_sonstige_mehrspurige_Kraftfahrzeuge,_StVO_1992.svg

Re: [Tagging] motorcar definition changed recently

2018-10-03 Thread SelfishSeahorse
On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 17:58, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Thank you, I have now reverted the change wrt to motorcar. I've also reverted the change on the page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motorcar and tried to make the different meanings of that tag when either used as permission or

Re: [Tagging] motorcar definition changed recently

2018-09-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-09-03 9:36 GMT+02:00 SelfishSeahorse : > The meaning of the motorcar key has been discussed some time ago with the > conclusion that motorcar=no means 'no entry for any power driven vehicle > except two-wheeled motor cycles without side-car', while motorcar=yes only > means that motorcars are

Re: [Tagging] motorcar definition changed recently

2018-09-03 Thread SelfishSeahorse
Here's the weblink to Simon's explanation of motorcar=yes vs motorcar=no from the past discussion: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-November/034208.html (The corresponding thread about a special road barrier started here: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/201

Re: [Tagging] motorcar definition changed recently

2018-09-03 Thread SelfishSeahorse
The meaning of the motorcar key has been discussed some time ago with the conclusion that motorcar=no means 'no entry for any power driven vehicle except two-wheeled motor cycles without side-car', while motorcar=yes only means that motorcars are allowed. (Unfortunately i couldn't find the discussi

Re: [Tagging] motorcar definition changed recently

2018-09-02 Thread Warin
On 03/09/18 10:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 3. Sep 2018, at 01:36, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: "In the Vienna Convention on Road Signs and_Signals t

Re: [Tagging] motorcar definition changed recently

2018-09-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 3. Sep 2018, at 01:36, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > "In the Vienna Convention on Road Signs and_Signals the symbol that > depicts a (passenger) car -either from the front or the side- is also used to > describe the wider category of vehicles, as in

Re: [Tagging] motorcar definition changed recently

2018-09-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 3. Sep 2018, at 01:36, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > When you look at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motorcar > it has some details that make the change possibly valid ... hm. After 10+ years of all mappers tagging according to the same definition

Re: [Tagging] motorcar definition changed recently

2018-09-02 Thread Warin
On 03/09/18 07:13, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: OMG the Germans have overtaken the wiki. I just noticed this change to the motorcar access definition: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Aaccess&type=revision&diff=1601167&oldid=1598869 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?

[Tagging] motorcar definition changed recently

2018-09-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
OMG the Germans have overtaken the wiki. I just noticed this change to the motorcar access definition: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Aaccess&type=revision&diff=1601167&oldid=1598869 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:motorcar&diff=next&oldid=1532406 I u