Re: [Tagging] informal helipads for emergency use

2013-04-02 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: > > aeroway=helipad > > name=Fred's LZ > > access=no > > emergency=yes > > surface=grass > > Seems reasonable to me, and useful. > I think what's really being mapped is > the *designation* by an emergency authority. Which makes this > inform

Re: [Tagging] informal helipads for emergency use

2013-04-01 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > i'm thinking both areas and nodes, with tagging that looks something like > this: > > aeroway=helipad > name=Fred's LZ > access=no > emergency=yes > surface=grass > > does this seem reasonable? Seems reasonable to me, and useful. Maybe an op

Re: [Tagging] informal helipads for emergency use

2013-03-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/30/13 5:43 PM, Anthony DiPierro wrote: The question is whether or not these contracts are. Are they written? Are they public? I have my doubts about both of these. But let's get some examples so we can discuss it. i am researching this. what i am gathering is that some years back (proba

Re: [Tagging] informal helipads for emergency use

2013-03-30 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > 2013/3/30 Pieren > >> Something unverifiable on the ground. What you describe is just a contract >> between an organization and a landowner. > > well, a contract is in many circumstances verifiable. You could also see an > actual helicopter land there in case of an

Re: [Tagging] informal helipads for emergency use

2013-03-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/3/30 Pieren > Something unverifiable on the ground. What you describe is just a contract > between an organization and a landowner. > well, a contract is in many circumstances verifiable. You could also see an actual helicopter land there in case of an emergency ;-) On the other hand, mos

Re: [Tagging] informal helipads for emergency use

2013-03-30 Thread Pieren
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > I think Richard's use of "informal" may be confusing. These places are > not constructed to helipad standards. But they are designated in > writing and shared between the local Fire Department/etc. and the > medevac service. > > Something u

Re: [Tagging] informal helipads for emergency use

2013-03-29 Thread Greg Troxel
Pieren writes: > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Stephan Knauss > wrote: > >> Could it be stored inside the emergency key? >> so leave away the aeroway and store as emergency=helipad? > > Since it is "informal" and applies to "level grassy areas", what will > be tagged is just an "arrangement

Re: [Tagging] informal helipads for emergency use

2013-03-29 Thread Greg Troxel
[First, I understand what you mean, and what you're trying to do. My town certainly has places like this for medevac helicopters.] I think this information clearly does belong in OSM. It's a fact about the real world, and it's easy to verify. But, I don't think they are "helipads". It might b

Re: [Tagging] informal helipads for emergency use

2013-03-29 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Stephan Knauss wrote: > Could it be stored inside the emergency key? > so leave away the aeroway and store as emergency=helipad? Since it is "informal" and applies to "level grassy areas", what will be tagged is just an "arrangement with the landowner". Because i

Re: [Tagging] informal helipads for emergency use

2013-03-28 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hi Richard, On 28.03.2013 21:21, Richard Welty wrote: in rural areas, these are predetermined locations for helicopters to set down to airlift out urgent medical cases. they are not generally "official helipads", just level grassy areas where they have arrangements with the landowner. generally

[Tagging] informal helipads for emergency use

2013-03-28 Thread Richard Welty
i'm talking to a volunteer firefighter about various emergency issues. one he brought up that i'd not thought about before is what they call landing zones. in rural areas, these are predetermined locations for helicopters to set down to airlift out urgent medical cases. they are not generally "