Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-03 3:39 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout : > It's difficult to come up with a scheme that handles all the possibilities > especially if you consider the reality that most tag information will never > show up on a standard map. well, you won't get them on a paper map most probably, but digital m

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

Nico said, "As a mountaineer I was very intrigued by the hut discussion and wanted to share some of my knowledge on this area. I will however definitely exceed the initial question in this message, since I'm more interested in the differentiation between the tags." Actually, the reason I started t

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

It's great to have new people enthusiastic about tagging. A good side of already existing tags (alpine_hut, shelter..) is that a mapper not very experianced in mountaineering can tag them easily without reading 3 pages of text. Also, non-specialized renderers don't have to think too much about the

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

My apologies in advance if I break convention or code, but I just recently started mapping and even more recently joined the mailing list. As a mountaineer I was very intrigued by the hut discussion and wanted to share some of my knowledge on this area. I will however definitely exceed the initial

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

Some provide food and have a warden, some don't. Another type of "accommodation" that it would be useful to map is the emergency shelter. It is always good to know where these are, just in case! Regards Dudley Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 12:13:44 +0200 From: dieterdre...@gmail.com To: taggin

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 08:01:01AM +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > I think a link to shelter:type would be a good addition to the Map > Features; Tourism page for further choices when tagging wilderness > shelters. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shelter_type. Note that > this page throws

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-04-01 4:20 GMT+02:00 fly : > > Wikipedia shows several huts of the type I mean here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilderness_hut .Their definition says these > > are free — that is not the case in Alaska but is mostly true elsewhere > > in the U.S. AFAIK > > We have access=* and fee=* to

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

In the old days when the term was first brought into use in the Adirondack Mountains, it was just that, a bunch of spruce branches leaning against a tree. At any rate, they are common features in the eastern American wilderness regions. See this link about lean-tos on the Appalachian Trail http:

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

On 01/04/2014 02:01, Dave Swarthout wrote: Fly mentioned shelter_type just now — another type of wilderness accommodation is a basic shelter called a lean-to, a rough three sided, roofed shelter, open to the elements on one side. That's an odd use of the word 'lean-to'. Yes, a lean-to is a th

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

There is this site refuges.info that could be used to help defining useful tags at least for France. On 1 avril 2014 04:20:08 UTC+02:00, fly wrote: >On 01.04.2014 03:01, Dave Swarthout wrote: >> So, an alpine_hut is, at least in Europe, an operated place sort of >like >> a guest_house? I don't t

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

On 01.04.2014 03:01, Dave Swarthout wrote: > So, an alpine_hut is, at least in Europe, an operated place sort of like > a guest_house? I don't think we have anything comparable in the U.S. How about this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/419229498 ? > Wikipedia shows several huts of the typ

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

So, an alpine_hut is, at least in Europe, an operated place sort of like a guest_house? I don't think we have anything comparable in the U.S. Wikipedia shows several huts of the type I mean here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilderness_hut .Their definition says these are free — that is not the cas

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

On 31.03.2014 18:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-03-31 18:18 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout >: > > @fly > > "What is the difference between a mountain, alpine, or wilderness > hut" is exactly what I'm trying to determine. > > Mountain_hut is no

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-03-31 18:18 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout : > @fly > > "What is the difference between a mountain, alpine, or wilderness hut" is > exactly what I'm trying to determine. > > Mountain_hut is not used much — only 7 instances — so I think it can > safely be considered to be the same as an alpine_hut

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

In the UK, particularly Scotland, it's a Bothy! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bothy Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 31/03/2014 04:14, Dave Swarthout wrote: In reading over a proposal in here for apartment sharing that included a list of other tourism keys relating to lodging or accommodatio

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

@fly "What is the difference between a mountain, alpine, or wilderness hut" is exactly what I'm trying to determine. Mountain_hut is not used much — only 7 instances — so I think it can safely be considered to be the same as an alpine_hut which, by definition, is located in mountainous regions.

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

Yes, thanks Martin, I forgot to "Reply to All" I'm glad to hear your explanation. What was possibly meant was "a place to have fire" and not our American formal "fireplace". The cabins I'm familiar with have a small wood stove, which is a metal box with a tight fitting door and air vents to contro

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

Well, what is the difference between a mountain, alpine or wilderness hut ? Think much more important than the name and its surrounding are the available facilities, capacity and equipment. Rather than splitting the types by name I would prefer to get information about how useful the hut is for m

Re: [Tagging] Wilderness huts

2014-03-31 5:14 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout : > I am proposing adding the words "typically not accessible from the highway > system" to the definition for wilderness_hut in the Map Features; Tourism > section. Currently it says: "A remote building with fireplace intended to > provide shelter and slee

[Tagging] Wilderness huts

In reading over a proposal in here for apartment sharing that included a list of other tourism keys relating to lodging or accommodation that included, among other remotely located shelters, the value wilderness_hut. We have 60 such wilderness cabins and 4 ice huts in Alaska managed by the Alaska D