Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-05-25 17:11 GMT+02:00 Richard : > [water=cascade] still weasel enough. Could be a single waterfall, a series > of them or this: > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldau-Kaskade > fountain_type=cascade should make the object clear if you'd want to be more specific: start_date=1500-1600 --> h

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-25 Thread Richard
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 01:46:18PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > So "cascade" would be a true weasel tag. > > > yes, it is typical for words to have different meanings in different > contexts, but water=cascade will be much less a weasel than the word cascade > alone still enough of

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 25.05.2015 um 13:37 schrieb Richard : > > > in some languages a cascade is any series of "things", be it > electronic switches in circuits or waterfalls - even in English > as I have just noticed from reading wiktionary: > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cascade > > So "cascade" would

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-25 Thread Richard
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 11:53:48PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > > Am 24.05.2015 um 14:36 schrieb John Willis : > > > > I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. > > > I thought it was a word for a single waterfall as well... in some languages a cascade

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-24 Thread John Willis
> On May 25, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> Am 24.05.2015 um 14:36 schrieb John Willis : >> >> I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. > > > I thought it was a word for a single waterfall as well... The water careened off the cliff. Th

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-24 Thread pmailkeey .
On 24 May 2015 at 22:53, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > > Am 24.05.2015 um 14:36 schrieb John Willis : > > > > I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. > > > I thought it was a word for a single waterfall as well... > > Only where the water hits other things

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 24.05.2015 um 14:36 schrieb John Willis : > > I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. I thought it was a word for a single waterfall as well... > > Also - saying a waterfall is a reflecting pool is very disingenuous - it's > not "that" it reflects -

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-24 Thread John Willis
I always thought a cascade is a series of waterfalls connected together. Wether that is natural or artificial, I'm not sure there's a distinction. http://www.tripadvisor.com/MobileViewPhoto-g298182-d1311890-i131738347-Ryuzu_Waterfall-Nikko_Tochigi_Prefecture_Kanto.html I've visited a lot of wa

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-23 Thread pmailkeey .
On 23 May 2015 at 11:09, Richard Z. wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 03:54:57PM +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > On 22 May 2015 at 15:29, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > > I am uncomfortable with "cascade" - in several languages it > > > means "waterfall" so there is considerable potential for > > > con

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-23 Thread Richard Z.
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 03:54:57PM +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 22 May 2015 at 15:29, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > I am uncomfortable with "cascade" - in several languages it > > means "waterfall" so there is considerable potential for > > confusion. > > > > I agree. A cascade is a waterfall in Am

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Dave Swarthout
How about fountain_cascade or waterfall_artificial? It's a tricky proposition. On Friday, May 22, 2015, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 22 May 2015 at 15:54, Andy Mabbett > wrote: > > > How, then would you describe: > > Or these: > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Site_of_Priory_Mill_-_geo

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 May 2015 at 15:54, Andy Mabbett wrote: > How, then would you describe: Or these: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Site_of_Priory_Mill_-_geograph.org.uk_-_288573.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Luxury_apartments,_Dickens_Heath_Village,_Solihull_-_geograph.org.uk

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 May 2015 at 15:29, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I am uncomfortable with "cascade" - in several languages it > means "waterfall" so there is considerable potential for > confusion. > > I agree. A cascade is a waterfall in American English. How, then would you describe: https://commons.wikim

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Richard Z.
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 09:26:34AM -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote: > The water feature we are talking about here is an artificial waterfall, > usually pump-driven. in that case it might be better to either use normal waterfall tagging node with waterway=waterfall+ way waterway=weir, possibl

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Dave Swarthout
I am uncomfortable with "cascade" - in several languages it means "waterfall" so there is considerable potential for confusion. I agree. A cascade is a waterfall in American English. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Richard Z. wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:00:30PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoef

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
The water feature we are talking about here is an artificial waterfall, usually pump-driven. On May 22, 2015 9:19:44 AM "Richard Z." wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:00:30PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > > Am 22.05.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Andy Mabbett : > > > > These might be c

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Richard Z.
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:00:30PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > > Am 22.05.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Andy Mabbett : > > > > These might be cascades, rills, reflecting-pools, rain-chains, moats, etc. > > > > We might, for example, have: > > > > natural=water > > water=cascde >

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 22.05.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Andy Mabbett : > > These might be cascades, rills, reflecting-pools, rain-chains, moats, etc. > > We might, for example, have: > > natural=water > water=cascde > > etc. - but not: > > water=fountain > > as we already have > > amenity=fountain > >

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 22 May 2015 at 12:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > what are the other examples? We cannot propose tags if you don't say what you > want to tag ;-) "man-made, ornamental water features, which are not fountains" These might be cascades, rills, reflecting-pools, rain-chains, moats, etc. We mi

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 22.05.2015 um 12:28 schrieb Andy Mabbett : > > Cascades, by their very nature, are not suitable for reflecting as the > water is agitated. maybe this is a language issue, I would have thought they would reflect anyway but you wouldn't see a clear picture (I agree that reflection_pool i

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 May 2015 at 16:40, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Wiki suggests natural=water + water=reflecting_pool: Cascades, by their very nature, are not suitable for reflecting as the water is agitated. There may also be no horizontal surface to speak of. > Maybe water=cascade could be the right fit. Prob

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 May 2015 at 12:25, pmailkeey . wrote: > 'Pond' seems to fit the bill: No, it does not. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/taggi

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-15 Thread Janko Mihelić
pet, 15. svi 2015. 13:15 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> je napisao: On 15/05/2015 4:55 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > A lot of those end up as natural=water. I suppose man_made=yes could > be added. > The 'Pool of Reflection' Sydney is simply tagged natural=water name=Pool of Reflection Way: 182625

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-15 Thread pmailkeey .
'Pond' seems to fit the bill: OED: "A small body of still water of artificial formation, made either by excavating a hollow in the ground or by embanking and damming up a watercourse in a natural hollow." On 15 May 2015 at 12:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 15/05/2015 4:55 PM, Bryce

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-15 Thread Warin
On 15/05/2015 4:55 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: A lot of those end up as natural=water. I suppose man_made=yes could be added. The 'Pool of Reflection' Sydney is simply tagged natural=water name=Pool of Reflection Way: 182625202 That is an ornamental memorial pool. Flat. I've added a just cas

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-05-15 8:48 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett : > How should we tag man=made, ornamental water features, which are not > fountains? For example, a cascade? > fountains also require a natural=water for the effective water areas. See here: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/705

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-14 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
A lot of those end up as natural=water. I suppose man_made=yes could be added. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
How should we tag man=made, ornamental water features, which are not fountains? For example, a cascade? The wiki pages at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Water http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfountain are of little help in this regard. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing