Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread aighes
Am 19.06.2012 11:35, schrieb Martin Vonwald: 2012/6/19 aighes : I think it would be better to have this information in the route=road-relation ;-) You have a relation for SS§ and a relation for E45...why you need the same information at the way? Isn't this a different information? The ref in th

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Colin Smale
Up to the usual standards one has come to expect from these large international organisations, I would say. On 19/06/2012 13:20, Philip Barnes wrote: "There is no ferry between Kingston upon Hull and Esbjerg. An alternative ferry is available from Harwich (350 km/220 mi from Kingston upon Hu

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Philip Barnes
"There is no ferry between Kingston upon Hull and Esbjerg. An alternative ferry is available from Harwich (350 km/220 mi from Kingston upon Hull) to Esbjerg". A well thought out route? Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 19/06/2012 11:46 Colin Smale wrote: Strictly speaking the international E-

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/6/19 Martin Vonwald : > I don't think the classifier would make much sense in this case. +1 > You > want to tag the national reference. In Austria this would be the > austrian (and only austrian) reference, in Germany the german (and > only german) reference, in the UK ... you got it. You

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Martin Vonwald
2012/6/19 Ronnie Soak : >>> >>> >>> there are >>> 145428 int_ref >>> 60611 nat_ref >>> 12 ref:de >>> 0 ref:DE >>> >>> > > Ok, you are right. I'm just wondering why the country classifier is used on > so many other tags and not on this one. I don't think the classifier would make much sense in this

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/6/19 Ronnie Soak : > Ok, you are right. I'm just wondering why the country classifier is used on > so many other tags and not on this one. Is it? I don't recall lots of tags with country classifiers. Language codes a quite frequent, country codes aren't, especially not in keys. Omitting the

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Ronnie Soak
> > >> >> there are >> 145428 int_ref >> 60611 nat_ref >> 12 ref:de >> 0 ref:DE >> >> >> Ok, you are right. I'm just wondering why the country classifier is used on so many other tags and not on this one. Best regards, Chaos ___ Tagging mailing list Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Colin Smale
Strictly speaking the international E-numbers are routes, not roads. The European Route Network is overlaid on top of the national networks and doesn't bother about international boundaries. In Belgium however it is very common to use the E-route numbers on signs instead of any local A-number w

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Volker Schmidt
The ref tag on a road should indicate what is on the road signs, at least in principle. Even though in practice what you see on the road signs varies considerably from country to country and also inside the same country, I would consider putting the int_ref and the national ref on roads (or route r

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Martin Vonwald
2012/6/19 aighes : > I think it would be better to have this information in the > route=road-relation ;-) > You have a relation for SS§ and a relation for E45...why you need the same > information at the way? Isn't this a different information? The ref in the relation is the reference of a specifi

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/6/19 Ronnie Soak : > What about ref:DE= or ref:UK= for the national and just ref= for the > international ID? This looks like an alternative, but it is not how it is actually done: there are 145428 int_ref 60611 nat_ref 12 ref:de 0 ref:DE also from a practical point of view (e.g. renderin

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread aighes
I think it would be better to have this information in the route=road-relation ;-) You have a relation for SS§ and a relation for E45...why you need the same information at the way? Henning ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://l

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Martin Vonwald
2012/6/19 Ronnie Soak : > What about ref:DE= or ref:UK= for the national and just ref= for the > international ID? I've never seen ref:DE or ref:UK or any ref:. For the national reference the tag nat_ref is usually used afaik. Martin ___ Tagging mailin

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Martin Vonwald
The reason why I'm asking is the SS3bis/E45 in Italy: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/22873607 It is the first road I've seen where the ref tag contains the international ref and not the national ref (besides int_ref and nat_ref). Martin 2012/6/19 Martin Koppenhoefer : > +1, > I'd put th

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Ronnie Soak
What about ref:DE= or ref:UK= for the national and just ref= for the international ID? best regards, Chaos 2012/6/19 Martin Vonwald > Hi! > > What value would you put into the ref tag if national and > international reference differs? I seems to me that mostly the > national ref is used, whi

Re: [Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/6/19 Martin Vonwald : > Hi! > > What value would you put into the ref tag if national and > international reference differs? I seems to me that mostly the > national ref is used, which also makes sense imo. +1, I'd put the national ref in "ref" and the international ref in "int_ref". cheers

[Tagging] Ref tag

2012-06-19 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hi! What value would you put into the ref tag if national and international reference differs? I seems to me that mostly the national ref is used, which also makes sense imo. Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openst