Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:smoking http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Key:smoking ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > I object. The feature page should document actual usage, and actual usage > differs from proposed usage. smoking=outside is the second most common > value > and 15x more abundant than the proposed smoking:outside=yes. If you look, I

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-23 Thread fly
Am 23.03.2015 um 08:35 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann: > On 21.03.2015 01:54, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: >> Any objection to moving: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking >> because it is heavily used and obviously well established. You are right my "+1" was to fast. > I object. T

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-22 14:00 GMT+01:00 fly : > +1 but please copy and archive the proposal +1, rather than "(User moved page Proposed features/Smoking to Tag:smoking) (undo)" the Tag definition page should be a new page, referring the proposal page (e.g. in the "see also" section, or maybe a dedicated "pro

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-23 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 21.03.2015 01:54, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > Any objection to moving: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking > because it is heavily used and obviously well established. I object. The feature page should document actual usage, and actual usage differs from proposed usage. sm

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 6:00 AM, fly wrote: > +1 but please copy and archive the proposal I'm pretty sure I screwed up the archive process, despite the template {{Archived proposal}}. Sorry. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://l

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-22 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Moved http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:smoking Left for now http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dsmoking_area There is some divergence between the translations. Tag:amenity%3Dsmoking_area appeared in a unilateral edit on 14 May 2014 by user ArPi with comment "create microwiki": h

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-22 Thread fly
Am 21.03.2015 um 18:43 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: >> Am 21.03.2015 um 08:54 schrieb Michael Reichert : >> >> I agree. Because it is used on 47541 objects at OSM all over the world, >> it's best to move the page to Key:smoking. > > +1 +1 but please copy and archive the proposal fly __

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Heh. Few things that look easy really are. I'll additionally propose to fold: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:amenity%3Dsmoking_area&action=history Into smoking=yes ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.ope

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I propose adding a small note to specifically cover "designated smoking areas" on closed ways: smoking=designated area=yes As the remaining smokers must find and congregate in those :-). And removing the section on default relations, as it's not actually used (and as noted problematic): /

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 21.03.2015 um 08:54 schrieb Michael Reichert : > > > I agree. Because it is used on 47541 objects at OSM all over the world, > it's best to move the page to Key:smoking. +1 cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org h

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2015-03-21 um 02:29 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: > Additions to that page, I'd think, should be proposed separately. > > - > The utility undergrounding RFC proposes tagging for a similar "regional > default value". > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Quickly_Marking_Utility_Wi

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Bryce, Am 2015-03-21 um 01:54 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: > Any objection to moving: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking > because it is heavily used and obviously well established. I agree. Because it is used on 47541 objects at OSM all over the world, it's best to move

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Additions to that page, I'd think, should be proposed separately. - The utility undergrounding RFC proposes tagging for a similar "regional default value". http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Quickly_Marking_Utility_Wires Eventually the tools will catch up :-) But that case is si

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-20 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > I don't object, but it would be nice if there was a way to say a city or > county was non-smoking in certain types of establishments by default, in > addition to tagging each one as smoking=no. > I agree. Since OSM is a geographical databa

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-20 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 17:54 -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > Any objection to moving: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking > because it is heavily used and obviously well established. I don't object, but it would be nice if there was a way to say a city or county was non-smo

[Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

2015-03-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Any objection to moving: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking because it is heavily used and obviously well established. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging