Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 14. März 2012 13:10 schrieb Ronnie Soak : > Also the meaning of some signs already has a tag of its own. A > traffic_sign=maxspeed is tagged as maxspeed=* on the way. A > traffic_sign=oneway is tagged as oneway=yes, a traffic_sign=cycleway > is tagged as access=no; bicycle=designated. in the c

Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread Ronnie Soak
I think most points are adressed on the proposal or talk pages, but here we go: > > Putting lots of traffic signs on nodes on the way would result in a lot of > new nodes on the ways, which will need optimising out by routers/mkgmap > etc. The node count will increase anyway, the tools need to s

Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread Colin Smale
Putting lots of traffic signs on nodes on the way would result in a lot of new nodes on the ways, which will need optimising out by routers/mkgmap etc. The sign is not really an attribute of the road. Putting a tag on the road segment to which the warning applies would seem to me a more logic

Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mar 14, 2012 3:25 AM, "OSM user" wrote: > I want to use some designations for preventing traffic signs: > traffic_sign=dangerous_turn_right, traffic_sign=dangerous_turn_left, > traffic_sign=dangerous_turns_right and > traffic_sign=dangerous_turns_left, Not sure what signs you mean with thes

Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread Martin Vonwald
2012/3/14 Ronnie Soak : > Please also see > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hazard_warning > > What about a combination of both? Tagging the traffic_sign=* at the > node on the way roughly where the sign is, then tag the hazard=* along > the way or on the node where the actual

Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread Ronnie Soak
Please also see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hazard_warning What about a combination of both? Tagging the traffic_sign=* at the node on the way roughly where the sign is, then tag the hazard=* along the way or on the node where the actual danger is. Regards, Chaos99 _

Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread Ronnie Soak
This is a complex matter. Verbose names are good. Looking up numeral codes is tedious for the human mapper and hinders wider usage of the tag. Also the country prefix is redundant, as this can be determined out of the location of the sign. Also linking together signs of the same meaning in differe

Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread OSM user
Thank you! I changed the title. Link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Traffic_sign#Warning_traffic_signs --- 2012/3/14 John Sturdy : > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:25 AM, OSM user wrote: >> Hello! >>   I want to use some designations for prevent

Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread OSM user
I propose additional tag traffic_sign:extent= . Link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Traffic_sign#traffic_sign:extent - 2012/3/14 Martin Koppenhoefer : > Am 14. März 2012 11:25 schrieb OSM user : >> Please, look at my pro

Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread John Sturdy
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:25 AM, OSM user wrote: > Hello! >   I want to use some designations for preventing traffic signs: I think the usual English term is "warning signs" rather than "preventing signs". (In modern English, "to prevent" is to stop something happening, although it had a differ

Re: [Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 14. März 2012 11:25 schrieb OSM user : > Please, look at my proposals, support them or propose another. > Page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Traffic_sign#Preventing > traffic signs I support this idea, but there should be a way to add supplementary signs as well

[Tagging] Preventing traffic signs - Invitation to discussion

2012-03-14 Thread OSM user
Hello! I want to use some designations for preventing traffic signs: traffic_sign=dangerous_turn_right, traffic_sign=dangerous_turn_left, traffic_sign=dangerous_turns_right and traffic_sign=dangerous_turns_left, traffic_sign=slippery_road, traffic_sign=rough_road, traffic_sign=emission_of_gravel