Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-23 Thread John Eldredge
And then there is Castell Gwynn, in Triune, TN, the home of the annual Tennessee Renaissance Festival) . It is a copy of a Welsh castle, but built of concrete blocks rather than stone. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; onl

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-21 Thread John Eldredge
Some castles that started off as strictly defensible structures had nondefensible additions later, in peaceable times. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther Kin

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 17.10.2015 um 06:33 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > The difficult part is to signify the wall has a path along its top, and is > castellated. or has the path (and rooms) inside, eventually over several floors, this may be common for bigger city walls, e.g.

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread Warin
On 17/10/2015 10:16 AM, johnw wrote: On Oct 17, 2015, at 3:36 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: Am 16.10.2015 um 14:18 schrieb johnw >: and also - how do we handle the grounds? is there landuse=castle? the historic=castle tag will go o

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread johnw
> On Oct 17, 2015, at 3:36 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> Am 16.10.2015 um 14:18 schrieb johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>>: >> >> and also - how do we handle the grounds? is there landuse=castle? > > > the historic=castle tag will go on the whole site, the individual buildings > get t

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread Warin
On 17/10/2015 5:36 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 16.10.2015 um 14:18 schrieb johnw : and also - how do we handle the grounds? is there landuse=castle? the historic=castle tag will go on the whole site, the individual buildings get their own building tags Assumptio

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 16.10.2015 um 14:18 schrieb johnw : > > and also - how do we handle the grounds? is there landuse=castle? the historic=castle tag will go on the whole site, the individual buildings get their own building tags cheers Martin __

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread johnw
> On Oct 16, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > And btw., you have not yet answered the question regarding the Neuschwanstein > case. I could name a similar example (besides the other Ludwig II castles in > Bavaria), much smaller, here: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lich

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 16.10.2015 um 12:12 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: >> And btw., you have not yet answered the question regarding the >> Neuschwanstein case. I could name a similar example (besides the other >> Ludwig II castles in Bavaria), much smaller, here: >> https://en.wiki

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 16.10.2015 um 12:12 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > A building without defensive capabilities is not a castle. I think that's the key question, and it could be further specified (once fortified or still fortified, would be relevant for many cases, e.g. http

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread Warin
On 16/10/2015 7:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2015-10-16 10:02 GMT+02:00 John Willis >: It just feels weird to tag a more modern structure never used as a castle as a castle. You are right - the duck test tells me it is an imposing historic building.

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-10-16 10:02 GMT+02:00 John Willis : > It just feels weird to tag a more modern structure never used as a castle > as a castle. > > You are right - the duck test tells me it is an imposing historic > building. And yea, it looks a bit like a castle and is named "castle" - > like the disney cast

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I d call the hearst residence at least a villa, if castle doesn't find > agreement. A villa or mansion or something more than a common house - but... It just feels weird to tag a more modern structure never used as a c

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 16.10.2015 um 05:09 schrieb John Willis : > > the intended use of the facility was a lavish residence in the style of a > castle. that's what castles are ;-) > My aunt has a giant log cabin on a 1500m hill, much higher than Hearst's > lavish residence on the coast.

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 16.10.2015 um 05:09 schrieb John Willis : > > Its easy to use language to make anything anything, especially if you > conflate the personality of the occupants with the building, rather than the > usage and purpose(s) of the building itself. well, use the duck test:

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-15 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > t least the intention was to build a castle, the typology is copying > from castles, Hearst ruled an imperium (of publishing), he organized > impressive receptions, held formal dinners, etc. --- for me the > meaning of cast

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 15.10.2015 um 11:07 schrieb John Willis : > > Hearst castle is a very imposing and dominating structure. It was styled > somewhat as a castle (good imagery in google street view) Hearst was also a > powerful figure - but was it a seat of dominance over the land? A home to

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-10-15 13:56 GMT+02:00 André Pirard : > The historic key is correct, but used as an adjective as the attribute of > an object, not as a noun for it. > building=castlea building that is a castle, and not > historic=castle a historic that is a castle; but a castle, like many > other obje

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-15 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-10-15 09:27, Volker Schmidt wrote : > Another famous example: Hearst Castle [1] > > I think the "historic" key is correct. > > This is what Google proposes as definition and synonyms: > > > adjective: historic > > 1. > famous or important in history, or potentially so. > "we are standin

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-15 Thread John Willis
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Another famous example: Hearst Castle [1] > I think the "historic" key is correct. > +1 Hearst castle is definitely historic, its on several historic records. My parent's house in California, built in 1922 out of 40cm cut granite ston

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-15 Thread Volker Schmidt
Another famous example: Hearst Castle [1] I think the "historic" key is correct. This is what Google proposes as definition and synonyms: adjective: historic 1. famous or important in history, or potentially so. "we are standing on a historic site" synonyms:significant

Re: [Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-14 Thread Mike Thompson
Here is another example[1], and its website[2]. This one is in Colorado US. historic=castle doesn't seem appropriate as it was built in relatively recent times. [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/71070599 [2] http://www.bishopcastle.org/ On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Jaume Figueras i Jové

[Tagging] Postindustrial Castle

2015-10-14 Thread Jaume Figueras i Jové
Hi, I've found a 'postindustrial' castle tagged [1] and I don't know how can it be correctly tagged. With 'postindustrial' I mean a castle build by one person during the last 40-50 years as its own personal project with no other means that its own personal I don't know why someone builds