Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

On 06/07/19 22:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 6. Jul 2019, at 14:00, Tobias Zwick wrote: I am pretty sure myself that hgv are defined differently: as goods vehicles with a "gross vehicle weight rating" (gvwr), a.k.a. "gross vehicle mass" (gvm) or plainly said maximum l

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

On 2019-07-06 04:49, Colin Smale wrote: It is an intrinsic danger of international projects that words mean different things to different people. Hence the importance of keeping things objective, and recording facts, rather than judgements. It's about what things ARE, not what they are CALLED.

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

Ok, it seems that "unladen" is somewhat favoured here on the list because it is more precise, more common and conforms with the wording in the (UK) legislation. I'll change the one mention in the wiki of "maxemptyweight" to "maxunladenweight". Cheers Tobias On 06/07/2019 14:17, Martin Koppenho

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

sent from a phone > On 6. Jul 2019, at 14:00, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > I am pretty sure myself that hgv are defined differently: as goods vehicles > with a "gross vehicle weight rating" (gvwr), a.k.a. "gross vehicle mass" > (gvm) or plainly said maximum laden weight above 3.5t +1 no idea ho

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sent from a phone > On 6. Jul 2019, at 12:53, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > So "unladen" is the word used in UK legislation? Do you have a link? > Even if "unladen" is most commonly used in UK, I still find "empty" better > because it is easier to understand what it means for non native speakers >

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

>Unladen weight is used in European countries to apply only to goods >vehicles, either 3.5t or 7.5t, and is tagged as hgv=no/destination. Are you absolutely sure about this? I am pretty sure myself that hgv are defined differently: as goods vehicles with a "gross vehicle weight rating" (gvwr), a

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

On 2019-07-06 12:53, Tobias Zwick wrote: > So "unladen" is the word used in UK legislation? Do you have a link? http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/24/made > Even if "unladen" is most commonly used in UK, I still find "empty" better > because it is easier to understand what

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 12:26, Philip Barnes wrote: > Unladen is certainly the used, and understood, way of expressing such > restrictions in the UK. > > https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-weights-explained > > Off topic, and not your fault, but that is an explanation that isn't entirely free from ambiguit

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

On Saturday, 6 July 2019, Warin wrote: > On 06/07/19 19:46, Colin Smale wrote: > > > > On 2019-07-06 10:48, Warin wrote: > > > >> On 06/07/19 18:16, Colin Smale wrote: > >>> > >>> On 2019-07-06 05:03, Warin wrote: > >>> > >>> On 05/07/19 19:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >>> > >>> 3 J

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

On 06/07/19 19:46, Colin Smale wrote: On 2019-07-06 10:48, Warin wrote: On 06/07/19 18:16, Colin Smale wrote: On 2019-07-06 05:03, Warin wrote: On 05/07/19 19:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 3 Jul 2019, 12:52 by o...@westnordost.de: 1.1 At the examples: for max empty

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

Unladen is certainly the used, and understood, way of expressing such restrictions in the UK. https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-weights-explained Phil (trigpoint) On Saturday, 6 July 2019, Tobias Zwick wrote: > So "unladen" is the word used in UK legislation? Do you have a link? > Even if "unladen" is

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

So "unladen" is the word used in UK legislation? Do you have a link? Even if "unladen" is most commonly used in UK, I still find "empty" better because it is easier to understand what it means for non native speakers (simpler word). In the US, "empty" seems to be most commonly used, as it is als

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

On 2019-07-06 10:48, Warin wrote: > On 06/07/19 18:16, Colin Smale wrote: > > On 2019-07-06 05:03, Warin wrote: > On 05/07/19 19:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 3 Jul 2019, 12:52 by o...@westnordost.de: > 1.1 At the examples: for max empty weight, I propose the key maxemptyweight. > It sugges

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

On 06/07/19 18:16, Colin Smale wrote: On 2019-07-06 05:03, Warin wrote: On 05/07/19 19:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 3 Jul 2019, 12:52 by o...@westnordost.de: 1.1 At the examples: for max empty weight, I propose the key maxemptyweight. It suggests itself. Added, with link back to thi

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

On 2019-07-06 05:03, Warin wrote: > On 05/07/19 19:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 3 Jul 2019, 12:52 by o...@westnordost.de: > 1.1 At the examples: for max empty weight, I propose the key maxemptyweight. > It suggests itself. > Added, with link back to this post Here that would be called "maxi

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

On 05/07/19 19:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 3 Jul 2019, 12:52 by o...@westnordost.de: 1.1 At the examples: for max empty weight, I propose the key maxemptyweight. It suggests itself. Added, with link back to this post Here that would be called "maximum Tare weight". In the UK?

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3 Jul 2019, 12:52 by o...@westnordost.de: > 1.1 At the examples: for max empty weight, I propose the key maxemptyweight. > It suggests itself. > Added, with link back to this post > 1.2 At the examples: Conditionals should maybe better be catch-all, so i.e. > axles>=3 instead of axles=3 > Ch

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

Could both of you be a bit more transparent about the situation. You should be disclosing that Mateusz is being paid to work on your project and while not a direct employer-employee relationship, it is clearly that the success of what Mateusz is working on is in the end dependent on you accepting a

Re: [Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

Reviewed it. That is some impressive work, thank you for this! A few remarks: 1. Maxweight 1.1 At the examples: for max empty weight, I propose the key maxemptyweight. It suggests itself. 1.2 At the examples: Conditionals should maybe better be catch-all, so i.e. axles>=3 instead of axles=3

[Tagging] Maxweight wiki page changes

There were recently significant changes at OSM Wiki page about maxweight tag and related tags. Review is welcomed. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxweight - major changes included fixing mistakes in examples, adding additional exa