On a side-note, this meaning of 'pipestem' seems to be completely
unknown to the Oxford English Dictionary, despite the fact that they
revised this whole section of the alphabet ('pi-mesic' to 'pleating')
for an update released in June 2006. Perhaps someone should tell them
about it?
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Steve
2011/2/27 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer :
> tag driveway=pipeway.
sorry, of course this should read "pipestem" ;-)
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2011/2/27 Josh Doe :
> Again, I'm fine with not creating another tag (like
> driveway=pipestem), but the next best thing I can think of is to do
> something like "operator=123-129 Suburb Street" (as that's what's
> shown on signs, ugly for parsing), or perhaps I could create a
> "pipestem" relation
> Perhaps I could use highway=service, service=driveway, and
> driveway=pipestem? Suggestions are welcome!
>Creating a new tag here seems like overkill to me.
>I know taxonomies are fun, but don't see how "pipestem" adds much information.
>the distinction between the two are very important for m
On 2/26/2011 8:01 PM, Josh Doe wrote:
Interesting, this is a different definition of pipestem than what I'm
familiar with. Pipestems as I know them (at least in Fairfax County,
Virginia, USA), are a shared driveway leading to two or more houses.
The houses on a pipestem are jointly responsible fo
Interesting, this is a different definition of pipestem than what I'm
familiar with. Pipestems as I know them (at least in Fairfax County,
Virginia, USA), are a shared driveway leading to two or more houses.
The houses on a pipestem are jointly responsible for maintaining the
road themselves. Maybe
I agree about the access issue, by default for a driveway (or sub-type
pipestem :) access should be private, as it's solely intended for the
homeowner(s) to drive and/or park their vehicles. As Elizabeth points
out, yes, it does require routers to check the sub-type to see if it's
a driveway or not
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:04:23 -0800
Alan Mintz wrote:
> >The standard for driveways is in fact highway=service
> >service=driveway access=private.
>
> I don't feel the need to tag access=* on a driveway. It seems that,
> wherever I draw a driveway, it's access is the same as the property
> to
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:04:23 -0800
Alan Mintz wrote:
> I tag it highway=service + access=private (usually
> with evidence from a posted sign at the intersection with the public
> road),
I'd favour access=permissive rather than private.
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West Virginia actually maintains and numbers these "pipestems" under the
"Home Access Route Program" (example:
http://www.gribblenation.com/wvpics/subs/939on11n-kerr.jpg)
Before they were given to the state in the 1990s, they were "orphan
roads" that were open to the public but not maintained by
At 2011-02-26 14:35, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 2/26/2011 5:27 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
I'm not sure why you need to differentiate between this and a driveway,
but I think the driveway is mistagged if marked highway=service.
Do you mark the driveways access=private?
The standard for driveways
2011/2/26 Elizabeth Dodd :
> I'm not sure why you need to differentiate between this and a driveway,
> but I think the driveway is mistagged if marked highway=service.
It is quite common to do so (currently there are 171710 ways tagged
with service=driveway, which is a quarter of all values for t
On 2/26/2011 5:27 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
I'm not sure why you need to differentiate between this and a driveway,
but I think the driveway is mistagged if marked highway=service.
Do you mark the driveways access=private?
The standard for driveways is in fact highway=service service=driveway
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:52:39 -0500
Josh Doe wrote:
> How do we differentiate between driveways and pipestems? Pipestems are
> common in planned residential developments (at least in the US), where
> a number of houses are located off a pipestem, each with their own
> driveways.
A right-of-way in
2011/2/26 Josh Doe :
> I'm not proposing to create a new tag that becomes standard. If I have
> to I'll just use my_namespace=pipestem, but I'd rather use something
> that could possibly be reused by someone else.
if it becomes reused by someone else (which would be good IMHO) it is
kind of "stan
I need some way to differentiate between pipestems and driveways,
because the distinction between the two are very important for my
community.
Operator and access tags are useful, but they won't help me
differentiate between the two.
I'm not proposing to create a new tag that becomes standard. If
I'm not clear why this is all that different from an alley which might have
garages along it. Creating a new tag here seems like overkill to me.
Couldn't you just use one of the service values (driveway, alley, or just
keep it at service), and add access tag, operator, etc.? I know taxonomies
are
How do we differentiate between driveways and pipestems? Pipestems are
common in planned residential developments (at least in the US), where
a number of houses are located off a pipestem, each with their own
driveways. Maintenance of the pipestem is the responsibility of all
the homeowners off tha
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