Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-06-12 10:45 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss : > So long term are we going to retag courts, townhalls, libarties, post > offices etc. too ? we'll see. I did not aim at that, from a logical point of view some aspects of townhalls might integrate well, but they are also something special (council->l

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-12 Thread Andreas Goss
On 6/12/15 04:28 , Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: that's why I suggested to use a multi tag approach. One tag to say it is a government office, one to say at which level (admin level) and then tags

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-11 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > that's why I suggested to use a multi tag approach. One tag to say it is a > government office, one to say at which level (admin level) and then tags > for the stuff you can do there (property list) or about the general > classification

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-10 Thread Andreas Goss
On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 01:26 +0200, Andreas Goss wrote: Don't know why people are so keen on subtags on this one. Nobody would tag a fastfood restaurant buildng=yes + food=burgers. But we do: building=yes amenity=fast_food cuisine=burger Except you put in a amenity=fast_food which specifies

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-10 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 01:26 +0200, Andreas Goss wrote: > Don't know why people are so keen on subtags on this one. Nobody would > tag a fastfood restaurant buildng=yes + food=burgers. But we do: building=yes amenity=fast_food cuisine=burger -- Shawn K. Quinn _

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-10 Thread johnw
> On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> The name for them is revenue_stamp >> >> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_stamp >> >> > > > > this article names tax stamp and fiscal stamp as synonyms in the first > sen

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-10 Thread johnw
> On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:30 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > this article names tax stamp and fiscal stamp as synonyms in the first > sentence > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_stamp > Title says it all. __

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
>From experience, the opposite isn't true; Oregon expects you to explicitly have an Oregon license plate or trip permit (a big reason why the first exit in Oregon on all four freeways is "DMV & DOT Permits". This seems to only be enforced in a rather haphazard way that's just ripe for police abuse

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Tax stamps are for any stamp or seal for which a tax is paid. Most commonly, you find tax stamps on license plates and cigarette packs (California has cool looking bear shaped stamps on their packs). On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, wrote: > On Tue Jun 9 16:06:40 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoe

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 10.06.2015 um 01:51 schrieb John Willis : > > The name for them is revenue_stamp > > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_stamp > this article names tax stamp and fiscal stamp as synonyms in the first sentence > > It is also proof that a fee has been paid (you have the stamp!)

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread John Willis
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:40 AM, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: > >> On Tue Jun 9 16:26:36 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >> you can use them universally for payments of government taxes and fees, >> typically you have to stick them onto forms or other documents

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread John Willis
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:15 AM, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: > >> On Tue Jun 9 16:06:40 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> 2015-06-09 14:37 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : >> >>> How would you tag a shop that sells tax stamps and licenses, but is not a >>> government offi

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Andreas Goss
I'm guessing we don't need admin_level with vehicle registration, because it's always the same within a certain country. So let's keep it simple: building=yes + vehicle_registration=yes + driver_licensing=yes. That could be a lot of things. Might as well be a racetrack where you register and

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Using one global scheme could make rendering easier, but muddy the meaning of the place. Usnig regional schemes would match map reader expectations, but likely lag in terms of rendering support and processnig support. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@open

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Colin Smale
Also in the U.K. as Northern Ireland had its own system. On 9 June 2015 23:13:55 CEST, John Eldredge wrote: >In the USA, how it is handled varies from state to state, so there is >at >least one country where it isn't uniformly handled on a national level. > >-- >John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldre

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread John Willis
I would like to roll town hall into civic_admin, or similar, but realistically i can't, because the tag os so popular. But since almost every single other government agency or service is currently untagged, there is still plenty to be done. Javbw. > On Jun 9, 2015, at 10:58 PM, Andreas Goss

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 6/9/15 5:48 PM, John Eldredge wrote: > > The department that issues drivers' licenses varies from state to > state. The rules dividing regular drivers' licenses from specialized > licenses, such as restricted licenses for minors, commercial licenses > (needed to drive a vehicle for hire, and/or

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread John Eldredge
The department that issues drivers' licenses varies from state to state. The rules dividing regular drivers' licenses from specialized licenses, such as restricted licenses for minors, commercial licenses (needed to drive a vehicle for hire, and/or various large vehicles), and motorcycle licen

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Janko Mihelić
What's the difference in handling? When you register your car in Oregon, you can drive it across the USA. For cases when you can only get a drivers license for inside Oregon we can use: driver_licensing=yes + driver_licensing:admin_level=4 uto, 9. lip 2015. 23:15 John Eldredge je napisao: In

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread John Eldredge
In the USA, how it is handled varies from state to state, so there is at least one country where it isn't uniformly handled on a national level. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do t

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Janko Mihelić
I'm guessing we don't need admin_level with vehicle registration, because it's always the same within a certain country. So let's keep it simple: building=yes + vehicle_registration=yes + driver_licensing=yes. uto, 9. lip 2015. 17:42 je napisao: > On Tue Jun 9 16:26:36 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Ko

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread phil
On Tue Jun 9 16:26:36 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > you can use them universally for payments of government taxes and fees, > typically you have to stick them onto forms or other documents to make them > valid. > Tax_stamp sounds good, I have never heard of a UK equivalent. Phi

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-06-09 17:15 GMT+02:00 : > Is a tax stamp some sort of vehicle tax? > you can use them universally for payments of government taxes and fees, typically you have to stick them onto forms or other documents to make them valid. cheers, Martin ___ Tag

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread phil
On Tue Jun 9 16:06:40 2015 GMT+0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2015-06-09 14:37 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > > > How would you tag a shop that sells tax stamps and licenses, but is not a > > government office, and does not provide other services? The Oklahoma Tax > > Commission uses such a syste

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-06-09 14:37 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > How would you tag a shop that sells tax stamps and licenses, but is not a > government office, and does not provide other services? The Oklahoma Tax > Commission uses such a system throughout the state (authorized "tag > agents") to save people the hass

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Andreas Goss
What I don't get is why everyone is on this office=government and government=* tag, when even in your proposal most of the stuff that would fall under civic_admin is currently just tagged as amenity. I mean I would not have an issue with a government= tag, but then we would have to be consiste

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 07:37 -0500, Paul Johnson wrote: > The Oklahoma Tax Commission uses such a system throughout the state > (authorized "tag agents") to save people the hassle of having to drive > down to their office on the capitol mall in Oklahoma City. Texas does the same thing (allows e.g.

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2015-06-09 12:27 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > >> There's got to be a better way to do this. Oregon, this would be handled >> by the DMV in rural areas, and the Department of Environmental Quality in >> the Metro and Lane County regions

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-06-09 12:27 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > There's got to be a better way to do this. Oregon, this would be handled > by the DMV in rural areas, and the Department of Environmental Quality in > the Metro and Lane County regions. In Oklahoma, this would be handled by > the Oklahoma Tax Commissio

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Paul Johnson
There's got to be a better way to do this. Oregon, this would be handled by the DMV in rural areas, and the Department of Environmental Quality in the Metro and Lane County regions. In Oklahoma, this would be handled by the Oklahoma Tax Commission, same as you'd get a fishing license. Driver's l

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 09.06.2015 um 08:12 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt : > > Maybe pretty it up with a namespace. > > office=goverment > admin_level=4 > office:type:california=DMV > > office=goverment > admin_level=4 > office:type:massachusetts=RMV > name=Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles >

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread johnw
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > There's a whole set of assumptions about each type of goverment office that > would be impossible to > consistently capture with generic tags. Here the "Duck" of duck typing says > call it by whatever it is known locally. > I think ther

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
These are very specific government agencies. This may be a place where regionally specific tags work best. Maybe pretty it up with a namespace. office=goverment admin_level=4 office:type:california=DMV office=goverment admin_level=4 office:type:massachusetts=RMV name=Massachusetts

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 08.06.2015 16:48, Andreas Goss wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency office=government name=Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency short_name=DVLA > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles office=government name=Massachusetts Registry of Mo

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Andreas Goss
I believe we have a huge gap at tags for government agencies. We could start drafting a system with subtags, eg a tag that says a place is a government agency, a subtag for the administration level (eg municipal, regional, national, could maybe be the same as admin_level?), more subtags for the

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 08.06.2015 um 18:33 schrieb Andreas Goss : >>> This could then expand for other things requiring a license, shotgun=yes? > > Which I'm not sure is so great as it could expand endlessly. And there is > also stuff like motorsport licenses etc. +1, and the tagging with shotgun=yes is way t

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 08.06.2015 um 16:48 schrieb Andreas Goss : > > Seems a bit long and while it's the name of the agency in the UK it also > describes what it does very well. Maybe without acency? Using + isn't a good > idea, right? > > amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing > > Or is there a more general ter

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Andreas Goss
Or amenity=licensing, driver=yes, vehicle=yes. This could then expand for other things requiring a license, shotgun=yes? Which I'm not sure is so great as it could expand endlessly. And there is also stuff like motorsport licenses etc. I typically use office=government for this sort of thin

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Andreas Goss
Maybe something like: office=licensing licensing:vehicle=yes licensing:driver=yes I fell like long term that tag would completely blow up, considering you can get a license for almost everything. And this seems to be a very specific government institution in many countries. In the US, the

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:08 AM, wrote: > On Mon Jun 8 15:48:01 2015 GMT+0100, Andreas Goss wrote: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles >> >> amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing_agency I typically use offi

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread phil
On Mon Jun 8 15:48:01 2015 GMT+0100, Andreas Goss wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles > > amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing_agency > > Seems a bit long and while it's the name of the agency in the U

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2015-06-08 at 16:48 +0200, Andreas Goss wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles > > amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing_agency > > Seems a bit long and while it's the name of the agency in the UK

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread phil
On Mon Jun 8 15:48:01 2015 GMT+0100, Andreas Goss wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles > > amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing_agency > > Seems a bit long and while it's the name of the agency in the U

[Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

2015-06-08 Thread Andreas Goss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_and_Vehicle_Licensing_Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Motor_Vehicles amenity=driver_vehicle_licensing_agency Seems a bit long and while it's the name of the agency in the UK it also describes what it does very well. Maybe without acency? U