Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/2 Randy > > I did look up the definition of tunnel in my Webster's Unabridged, and > will concede that, that particular dictionary did seemingly restrict it to > underground. However, in the verb form it defined creating a passage under > or through something. So I guess if you tunnel th

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-11-01 Thread Randy
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >>I think "underground" is an unfortunate qualifier on tunnels, and I'd like >>to see it removed. > > >no. > > >>First of all, it's inaccurate. Look at the online >>dictionaries. > > >no, don't look at "online dictionaries" when talking about technical issues >that ar

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-11-01 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2009/10/31 Randy >> Secondly, if adopted strictly, if forces the creation of a >> separate tag with identical functionality for the above ground case. > > Which does make sense. A tunnel going underground can be crossed mostly > without

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/31 Randy > >I'm still not sure if my example should be tagged with "tunnel" or > >not. To my mind something doesn't become a tunnel just because you > >build something over top of it. According to the wiki, "The tunnel > >tag is used to map ways that runs through an underground passage.

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-31 Thread Randy
Anthony wrote: >I've been thinking about this, and I do support your proposal. >However, renderers should take care of this even if it isn't tagged >this way. Agreed, so long as there is a decipherable method of otherwise tagging it. But, let me qualify that: "Agreed, in theory. However, I don't

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-31 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Anthony wrote: > If a highway and a building cross at the same layer, the > building should be made partially transparent so the way can be seen > to be covering it. Covering it -> covered by it. ___ Tagging mailing li

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-31 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Randy wrote: > In addition to providing a proper tagging method, there is an added > benefit. There has been a continuing series of rendering bug reports about > roads being on top of buildings rather than under them, independent of > layering. This property tag wo

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-30 Thread Randy
Ed Hillsman wrote: >I would welcome any suggestions you have on how to deal with the open- >building situations, the student center, or shade. Yes, in a way, these >are minor, even trivial situations, but they contribute to the quality of >the local environment, and it would be good to be abl

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-30 Thread Ed Hillsman
I've come to this discussion late, because the tagging listserv is relatively new, and I haven't been monitoring it regularly. I don't have anything like a definitive suggestion to Randy's original problem or the variants added to it in the subsequent discussion, but I'd like to add somethi

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-30 Thread Randy
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >2009/10/30 Pieren > >>On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Randy >> >>wrote: >>>Possibly just "building=roof" >>>would work (not my idea, someone else suggested it). >> >>I have a much bigger preference to "building=roof" or "building=cover" >>on the element on the top i

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/30 Pieren > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Randy > wrote: > > Possibly just "building=roof" > > would work (not my idea, someone else suggested it). > > I have a much bigger preference to "building=roof" or "building=cover" > on the element on the top instead of some attribute on some

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-30 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Anthony wrote: > Splitting the building into two parts, one at layer=0, touching the > parking area, and one at layer=1, encompassing both the area next to > and under the parking area, is another solution.  It's similar to what > we'd do with a highway when we wan

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-30 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:24 AM, Pieren wrote: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Randy wrote: >> Possibly just "building=roof" >> would work (not my idea, someone else suggested it). > > I have a much bigger preference to "building=roof" or "building=cover" > on the element on the top instead o

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-30 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Randy wrote: > Possibly just "building=roof" > would work (not my idea, someone else suggested it). I have a much bigger preference to "building=roof" or "building=cover" on the element on the top instead of some attribute on some hypothetical element below . Add

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-29 Thread Randy
Tobias Knerr wrote: >Randy wrote: >>I propose that an additional property for highway of "covered=yes" be used >>for this and similar situations, where a road extends under a building, >>roof attached to a building, etc. > >If I understand you correctly, this tag is supposed to be used for >ways/a

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-29 Thread Randy
Anthony wrote: >On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Randy > wrote: >>I propose that an additional property for highway of "covered=yes" be used >>for this and similar situations, where a road extends under a building, >>roof attached to a building, etc. > >Would that be used for this: >http://images

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-29 Thread Randy
Tobias Knerr wrote: >Randy wrote: >>I propose that an additional property for highway of "covered=yes" be used >>for this and similar situations, where a road extends under a building, >>roof attached to a building, etc. > >If I understand you correctly, this tag is supposed to be used for >ways/a

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-29 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Randy wrote: > I propose that an additional property for highway of "covered=yes" be used > for this and similar situations, where a road extends under a building, > roof attached to a building, etc. Would that be used for this: http://images.loopnet.com/xnet/main

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-29 Thread Tobias Knerr
Randy wrote: > I propose that an additional property for highway of "covered=yes" be used > for this and similar situations, where a road extends under a building, > roof attached to a building, etc. If I understand you correctly, this tag is supposed to be used for ways/areas that are *under* b

Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Harris
+1 > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Randy > Sent: 28 October 2009 21:04 > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

[Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-28 Thread Randy
I have run into several situations where a service road extends under a covered area, such as a building. Layering is one way to tag the building/road system, but, technically, it is not always a correct way. Example: a building on the ground is at layer 0, associated with any pedestrian ways l