Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 31. May 2020, at 02:26, Alan Mackie wrote: > > Most tracktype=grade1 are probably highly suspicious depends on the area, in southern Germany at least in some areas, most tracks are actually paved with asphalt (while being explicitly closed to non-agricultural traffi

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-31 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
May 31, 2020, 02:24 by aamac...@gmail.com: > Most tracktype=grade1 are probably highly suspicious. > Highly depends on a location. Not in Poland where asphalt forestry road are normal. (and misuse that is present is mostly using highway=track to mean surface=unpaved)

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-30 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 16:55, Kevin Kenny wrote: > As far as I can tell, `tracktype` is mostly intended for surface > firmness: how likely are you to sink if you drive it in wet weather? > If I'm not doing a field survey in mud season, it's hard to tell. > Everythiing from grade3 to grade5 will h

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-30 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 18:23, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 04:10:42PM -0600, Mike Thompson wrote: > > I know we just had a similar discussion, but I am discovering more and > more > > cases where mappers have changed every dirt road they can find to > > "highway=track". For

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 30. May 2020, at 19:23, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > For tracks i have simple criteria when it cant be a track: > > - residential buildings (or used for reaching them) > - (school) buses > - garbage collection trucks > - postal services > > If anything is seen on that roa

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-30 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 04:10:42PM -0600, Mike Thompson wrote: > I know we just had a similar discussion, but I am discovering more and more > cases where mappers have changed every dirt road they can find to > "highway=track". For example, it looks like all of the dirt roads in the > area o

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-30 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 4:44 AM Alan Mackie wrote: > I think part of the problem with the highway=track description is that even > when you are there on the ground it isn't always clear what it's being used > for. They are often two ruts in the ground disappearing of into the distance > with li

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-30 Thread Alan Mackie
I think part of the problem with the highway=track description is that even when you are there on the ground it isn't always clear what it's being used for. They are often two ruts in the ground disappearing of into the distance with little else to go on. If you then look at aerial imagery you may

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-29 Thread Jack Armstrong
Yes, thank you for clarifying that chachafish did not make the changes ;)-chachafish-Original Message- From: Mike Thompson Sent: May 29, 2020 4:33 PM To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again Clifford,Thanks.  chachaf

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-29 Thread Mike Thompson
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 6:33 PM Andrew Harvey wrote: > I see someone has left a changeset comment, that's the right thing to do, Thanks Andrew. I think two of us have left comments now. If you have a different or better way of explaining it, please leave a comment yourself. On another change se

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-29 Thread Andrew Harvey
I think the wiki already does a good job at communicating this. iD already goes a step too far calling these "unmaintained track roads" but if anything that would have prevented people tagging as highway=track just because it is maintained, so not a factor in this case. I think the default render

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-29 Thread Mike Thompson
Clifford, Thanks. chachafish wasn't the one that made the change, the actual change set is https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/48657332 Mike On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 4:21 PM Clifford Snow wrote: > The user, chachafish, with more edits than anyone else I've seen, 162,466, > is still adding

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-29 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 5/29/20 17:19, Clifford Snow wrote: > The user, chachafish, with more edits than anyone else I've > seen, 162,466, is still adding features. chachafish has a history of > commenting on changesets so I would expect you'll get a reply.  More changesets doesn't really mean a whole lot, especially

Re: [Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-29 Thread Clifford Snow
The user, chachafish, with more edits than anyone else I've seen, 162,466, is still adding features. chachafish has a history of commenting on changesets so I would expect you'll get a reply. On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:11 PM Mike Thompson wrote: > I know we just had a similar discussion, but I am

[Tagging] Highway mistagging ... again

2020-05-29 Thread Mike Thompson
I know we just had a similar discussion, but I am discovering more and more cases where mappers have changed every dirt road they can find to "highway=track". For example, it looks like all of the dirt roads in the area of this way: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/17051445 have been changed to "