Re: [Tagging] Clearer definition of tunnel=flooded: when should it be used instead of tunnel=yes or tunnel=culvert?

2020-03-24 Thread François Lacombe
Hi all, According to this discussion, I tried to update tunnel=flooded and waterway=pressurised to make things more clear. Feel free to improve if I made any mistake, examples list are always open to add new situations if you find relevant ones. All the best François Le lun. 23 mars 2020 à 01:

Re: [Tagging] Clearer definition of tunnel ...

2020-03-23 Thread Michael Patrick
> To me a tunnel is different from a pipeline in regard of structure and building technique. Of course, we also have to consider pipelines inside of tunnels ( Thttps:// img.russianpatents.com/1165/11654510-o.jpg ) and cryogenic transmission lines which have pipelines inside of pipelines inside of

Re: [Tagging] Clearer definition of tunnel=flooded: when should it be used instead of tunnel=yes or tunnel=culvert?

2020-03-22 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
"To me 'tunnel=flooded' means that is cannot really be used for/by anything other than the fluid in it due to the very small amount of space left, if any. " Yes, that is what I would have guessed, too. I would have guessed that a canal tunnel which is passable by boats would be tunnel=yes, whethe

Re: [Tagging] Clearer definition of tunnel=flooded: when should it be used instead of tunnel=yes or tunnel=culvert?

2020-03-22 Thread Warin
On 23/3/20 9:08 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 19:09, François Lacombe mailto:fl.infosrese...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Volker, ... Fully disposed to make any improvement to wiki according to those points. Thanks, Francois. There is possibly a language bias (e

Re: [Tagging] Clearer definition of tunnel=flooded: when should it be used instead of tunnel=yes or tunnel=culvert?

2020-03-22 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Volker, Thank you for your answer Le dim. 22 mars 2020 à 23:09, Volker Schmidt a écrit : > > > On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 19:09, François Lacombe > wrote: > >> Hi Volker, >> ... >> Fully disposed to make any improvement to wiki according to those points. >> > > Thanks, Francois. > > There is po

Re: [Tagging] Clearer definition of tunnel=flooded: when should it be used instead of tunnel=yes or tunnel=culvert?

2020-03-22 Thread Volker Schmidt
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 19:09, François Lacombe wrote: > Hi Volker, > ... > Fully disposed to make any improvement to wiki according to those points. > Thanks, Francois. There is possibly a language bias (error?) in the use of tunnel=flooded. I am not a native speaker, but "flooded" to me means

Re: [Tagging] Clearer definition of tunnel=flooded: when should it be used instead of tunnel=yes or tunnel=culvert?

2020-03-22 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Volker, Le dim. 22 mars 2020 à 18:35, Volker Schmidt a écrit : > Slippery terrain. In the sense of definitions. > > Concerning the tunnel=flooded wiki page: > > The symbol shows free flowing water (air above the surface), wherea the > first example is for a headrace where "no air can get ins

Re: [Tagging] Clearer definition of tunnel=flooded: when should it be used instead of tunnel=yes or tunnel=culvert?

2020-03-22 Thread Volker Schmidt
Slippery terrain. In the sense of definitions. Concerning the tunnel=flooded wiki page: The symbol shows free flowing water (air above the surface), wherea the first example is for a headrace where "no air can get inside" Why is this situation not tagged as pipeline? (see last row in this table

Re: [Tagging] Clearer definition of tunnel=flooded: when should it be used instead of tunnel=yes or tunnel=culvert?

2020-03-22 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Joseph, Here are some points to make it clearer This is the base situation : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Waterway_drain_outlet.jpg Le dim. 22 mars 2020 à 00:46, Joseph Eisenberg a écrit : > Should a waterway=river every be tunnel=flooded, or is it then a canal? > Even if water

Re: [Tagging] Clearer definition of tunnel=flooded: when should it be used instead of tunnel=yes or tunnel=culvert?

2020-03-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Mar 2020, at 00:46, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > How safe for walking does the tunnel have to be? waterways often will have quite different levels depending on the atmospheric conditions in the past days and weeks in the upstream area. When does it have to be s

[Tagging] Clearer definition of tunnel=flooded: when should it be used instead of tunnel=yes or tunnel=culvert?

2020-03-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Unfortunately the original proposal did not really define tunnel=flooded, nor did it clearly list it as a proposed new tag. Now this page says: "A long (>100m) tunnel where flowing water or other fluid prevent humans from safely walking inside" It needs to be more clear when mappers should use tu