Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 27.07.2015 um 08:56 schrieb Tom Pfeifer : > > Consequently I agree that the dedicated holiday resort should not > be tagged landuse=military as the land is not used for this purpose. recreation and entertainment of soldiers are genuine military uses, essential parts in

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 27.07.2015 um 02:51 schrieb Richard Welty : > > i see that > access=military has been discussed in the past (for roads) and dismissed, > or i would suggest that. there's a difference between a road where all military has access to and a hotel where only the guests have

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 27.07.2015 um 02:41 schrieb John Willis : > > Martin brought up that in some counties, the military is the police. > > Defining all the police stations as military facilities would equally be > wrong. The actual situation is the other way round in Italy: part of the

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 27.07.2015 um 01:23 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > The word "and" above .. if applied logically would mean all of those things > need to be present for the tag landuse=military to be correct. no, natural language does not work like this. These are not logic

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-26 Thread Tom Pfeifer
Richard Welty wrote on 2015-07-26 20:04: the wiki definition for landuse=military is very broad: For land areas owned/used by the military for whatever purpose so the usage is correct if we strictly follow the wiki, but it still seems odd. which wiki page should that be? https://wiki.ope

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-26 Thread John Willis
Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 27, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > > access=military has been discussed in the past (for roads) and dismissed The area all around mt fuji is a military training ground. The major roads up the sides (which tourists drive) are criss-crossed by tracks and

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-26 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/26/15 7:23 PM, Warin wrote: > On 27/07/2015 4:04 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > > The word "and" above .. if applied logically would mean all of those things > need to be present for the tag landuse=military to be correct. > Substituting "and/or" would allow the mapper to use the tag for any, so

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-26 Thread John Willis
> On Jul 27, 2015, at 3:04 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > > For land areas owned/used by the military for whatever purpose Shouldn't that be "for military or related purposes?" The military "owns"recruiting centers in malls, that wouldn't be a good fit either. Martin brought up that in some c

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-26 Thread Warin
On 27/07/2015 4:04 AM, Richard Welty wrote: On 7/24/15 4:07 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 23.07.2015 um 23:50 schrieb Richard Welty : i'm not at all persuaded that this is an appropriate use of landuse=military. I agree that landuse=military seems a bit strange for a ho

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-26 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/24/15 4:07 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > sent from a phone > >> Am 23.07.2015 um 23:50 schrieb Richard Welty : >> >> i'm not at all persuaded that this is an appropriate use of >> landuse=military. > > I agree that landuse=military seems a bit strange for a holiday resort for > civilian

[Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-24 Thread Ruben Maes
Op vrijdag 24 juli 2015 heeft Andre Engels het volgende geschreven: > "xxx=designated" means that a road has been specifically designated > for vehicle type xxx. "access=designated" would mean that it was > _specifically_ designated for _everything_. A contradictio in > terminis. This is also how

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-24 Thread Andre Engels
From the wiki page [[Tag:access=designated]]: "NOTE! The exact key/value combination access=designated should never appear on an object." "xxx=designated" means that a road has been specifically designated for vehicle type xxx. "access=designated" would mean that it was _specifically_ designated

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-24 Thread Warin
so landuse=resort .. does not exist .. tourism=resort .. exists .. 110 uses.. so may well not render. access=designated with the building tagged building=hotel ... will get rendered access=designated On 24/07/2015 3:16 PM, johnw wrote: If there was a pilots club, it wouldn't be tagged as a

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 23.07.2015 um 23:50 schrieb Richard Welty : > > i'm not at all persuaded that this is an appropriate use of > landuse=military. I agree that landuse=military seems a bit strange for a holiday resort for civilian employees and service staff off duty for recreation. Are

Re: [Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-23 Thread johnw
If there was a pilots club, it wouldn't be tagged as an airport. The facilities my be designated for military personnel, but a) this is for recreation - not a military funtcion, and b) it is merely leased lodging. It's like is there was a bar near the base (not on base) for marines - it would

[Tagging] landuse=military

2015-07-23 Thread Richard Welty
so this past week, i was at Disneyworld with my family. as it happens, my wife is a civilian employee of the department of defense, so we stayed at shades of green, a resort at Disney leased by the DoD for use by service members, retirees and civilian employees. for some reason, in OSM it has a bo