[Tagging] Tagging for a pack station?

2013-08-30 Thread dies38061
(response to message archived at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-August/014639.html ) I took a look around and likely the closest match, albeit still a far one, would be "Trail riding station" which is listed among features on the page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ri

Re: [Tagging] Bridges redux

2013-05-09 Thread dies38061
There are advantages and disadvantages to this. The advantage is, as you point out, you reduce information duplication; there is also the designation of a limited controlled vocabulary which is used as a primary facet. The disadvantage is that the classification of these values as movable is l

[Tagging] Using key:operator to contain building management organization

2013-02-16 Thread dies38061
In particular for business properties, the property or building manager name and contact information is often available on a sign on the building's exterior. In this case I've used the _operator_ key to contain this information. Wondering what your opinion is on the suitability of this. Than

[Tagging] Landuse vs Place - conversation at talk-key-landuse in wiki

2013-02-15 Thread dies38061
This is a posting on the wiki which I've responded to --> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:landuse#Landuse.3D_-vs-_Place.3D The text of my input, for discussion: My opinion on this is that _place=neighborhood_ implies _landuse=residential_ but not vice versa. In that case, if one has

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains (Ubuntu Linux)

2013-01-22 Thread dies38061
On my Ubuntu Linux machine, the default calendar uses 3 letters for days of the week. --ceyockey -Original Message- >From: Eckhart Wörner >Sent: Jan 22, 2013 11:43 AM >To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" >Subject: Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains > >Hi Serge, > >Am

Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

2013-01-19 Thread dies38061
Maybe change from _building=yes_ to _building=construction_ and then use _construction=renovation_ ? --ceyockey -Original Message- From: Janko Mihelić Sent: Jan 18, 2013 2:54 PM To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tag

[Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

2013-01-14 Thread dies38061
There is a fast food franchise site which is closed for renovation in my vicinity. Two questions: * Would you support or recommend tagging a transient state like 'closed for renovation'? * If one were to indicate temporary closure, how would one do this? In the case of renovation, would one us

[Tagging] Draft proposal - (highway) shoulder

2013-01-13 Thread dies38061
I've suggested a revision to the proposed shoulder key @ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Shoulder . This draft began about 1.5 years ago. It would be nice to bring it to completion ... or has it already been brought to completion in another form? --ceyockey __

[Tagging] Wiki - Education features summary page created

2013-01-13 Thread dies38061
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Education_features --ceyockey ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Multiple Purposes for Buildings - forum for discussion of indoor mapping

2013-01-12 Thread dies38061
Consider posting at or joining http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=67 , which is dedicated to 'indoor mapping' .  I've noted this discussion thread at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Indoor_Mapping . --ceyockey ___ Tagging mailing lis

Re: [Tagging] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM -- using traffic_sign

2013-01-12 Thread dies38061
I take it that you are suggesting the use of key:traffic_sign as the referent for the sign containing the adopt-a-highway information. Though not said in the Wiki page ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_sign ), I generally think of a traffic sign as something which is meant to inf

Re: [Tagging] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM (this time in plain text)

2013-01-12 Thread dies38061
I should have also pointed at the revision to the original suggestion which I wrote after comments were provided at talk-us --> see http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-January/010187.html . This doesn't use amenity. --ceyockey -Original Message- >From: Chris66 >Sent

[Tagging] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM (this time in plain text)

2013-01-12 Thread dies38061
There is a thread of discussion on the Talk-us board about how and whether to represent Adopt-a-highway features. See http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-January/010086.html as the top of the thread. It was suggested that this come over to the tagging board for further discu

[Tagging] Adopt-a-highway representation in OSM

2013-01-12 Thread dies38061
There is a thread of discussion on the Talk-us board about how and whether to represent Adopt-a-highway features.  See http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-January/010086.html as the top of the thread.  It was suggested that this come over to the tagging board for further discussio

Re: [Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-06 Thread dies38061
I posted the original question/comment and have been testing a switch over to providing source information _only_ on changesets. I posted a followup message which related the source-on-changeset matter to provenance in RDF data .. I think that the source-on-changeset is as valid as and more con

Re: [Tagging] Names on relations and not component ways

2013-01-06 Thread dies38061
Thanks for the several comments from people. I decided to remove the relation and name each component way individually. I referred to this conversation in the changeset meta-data (source and source_ref). Regards --ceyockey. -Original Message- >From: Werner Hoch >Sent: Jan 6, 2013 4:

[Tagging] Brand vs. Franchise

2013-01-06 Thread dies38061
In an earlier message it was suggested that I use key:brand for a store in a chain. An alternative is to use key:franchise. Key:Brand is (much) more widely used in terms of instances. Key:franchise implies a conservation of business model by franchisees and goes along with a shared brand; sha

Re: [Tagging] Names on relations and not component ways

2013-01-06 Thread dies38061
"...why do you duplicate the tag waterway=river on every way" Because the relation can contain more than simply the waterway. For instance, one could add the riverbank, islets, and slips if one were so inclined. By letting each component way retain an identity of what it is, the relation

[Tagging] GNC (General Nutrition Centers) - variety of shop tag values

2013-01-06 Thread dies38061
I wanted to tag a GNC franchise outlet in the United States and wasn't quite sure what value to use for the shop key. I find that I'm not alone. Using OpenLinkMap, I identified most of the current GNC outlets mapped in the US and recorded the key:shop values ... all of the variants appeared on

Re: [Tagging] Names on relations and not component ways

2013-01-05 Thread dies38061
Thanks -- the rationale embodied in the sentence quoted from Toby Murray below was what drove me to use a relation: "It allows one real world object to be represented by one object in OSM and reduces duplication of tags on component ways." --ceyockey -Original Message- >From: Toby Mur

[Tagging] Names on relations and not component ways

2013-01-04 Thread dies38061
The waterway segments I collected into the relation are exactly analogous to roadway segments collected into a route relation. I do not think that the relation I created constitutes a category, really. --ceyockey -Original Message- >From: Chris66 >Sent: Jan 4, 2013 4:38 PM >To: taggi

[Tagging] Names on relations and not component ways

2013-01-04 Thread dies38061
Hello -- I recently created a waterway where I put the name of the waterway on the relation but not on the component ways which are grouped by the relation. This results in the name of the waterway not appearing in the standard Map view. I am wondering what current best practice is. Should na

[Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread dies38061
(I am replying to the message which appears last in the longest stack in the web listing) Thanks, everyone, for your thoughts. I gave this some additional thought over the past day. My initial concern was from a provenance point-of-view; I work with semantic web technologies inside a corporat

[Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread dies38061
I have been told ( on the talk-US email list ) that use of {{key|source}} on objects has been deprecated for years and that such information is only of historical interest and its use should be restricted to changesets. This is not reflected in anything I can find on the wiki, and I've done an

[Tagging] Source tag - deprecated for use on objects?

2013-01-02 Thread dies38061
I have been told ( on the talk-US email list ) that use of {{key|source}} on objects has been deprecated for years and that such information is only of historical interest and its use should be restricted to changesets.  This is not reflected in anything I can find on the wiki, and I've done an inc

[Tagging] New tag proposal Amenity=meditation centre

2012-09-15 Thread dies38061
(reply to message at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2012-September/011278.html ) I am wondering whether this tag might be used for something like Christian Science Reading Room locations. Though not really a 'meditation center', such a location aims to provide an alternative

[Tagging] access=no (was Amenity swimming_pool (was Amenity parking))

2012-01-16 Thread dies38061
There was some mention in this thread of the some lack of utility of "access=no" as a tag-value pair as someone usually has access to somewhere, it is just impeded by rules or physical barriers; I do agree with this in general. If we move to the inclusion of a historical layer, then "access=no"

[Tagging] Tag desired for "maintenance" - comment on utility

2011-11-24 Thread dies38061
This relates to the thread "Tag desired for "maintenance"" which begins at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2011-November/008887.html . My gut feeling is that it is more beneficial to bring civic services into the fold in using OSM as a micro-mapping resource than it is to reflec

Re: [Tagging] Why addr:state rather than is_in:state? (response to 2010-12-26 05:29:46)

2010-12-28 Thread dies38061
(from ceyockey) I am of the opinion that "addr:state" should only be used in the context of an address, not as a standalone synonym for "is_in:state", meaning that I support the use of "is_in:state" for routes. (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ceyockey) ==ORIGINAL BELOW== From: Nathan

[Tagging] Deprecated features - highway=disused

2010-12-20 Thread dies38061
I came across http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Disused_road today. I applied the proposal page template, indicating that the proposal had been obsoleted, as noted in the commentary on the page. Looking at the tag info for highway (http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/highwa