Re: [Tagging] definition of the key "office"

2017-07-06 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
> On 6 Jul 2017, at 13:33, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> - employment_agency > Some people (the public) go to employment agencies to seek employment. doubtlessly. Is it similar to a “shop”? Do they “sell a service”? It will depend on the kind of agency (e.g. in Germany, you won’t

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 10.03.2014 um 09:30 schrieb Peter Wendorff : > And even other shared purpose concepts are pretty common for event > spaces, I think: > - Sometimes parks (most of the year leisure=park) are used for events > regularly. > - Many parking spaces (most of the year amenity=parking; > parking=surfac

Re: [Tagging] Optical telecomunication cable tagging

2014-03-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 05.03.2014 um 00:16 schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier : > type=telecom type is reserved for relations, use something similar like pipeline:type instead Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/lis

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an imaginary oneway barrier

2014-02-09 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 09.02.2014 um 14:01 schrieb Pee Wee : > This then means that tagging a traffic_sign:forward=* on a node that is part > of a way is also more then arguable. We'll have to keep on searching for > better ways to map traffic signs. Maybe the Finnish style is not so bad after > all ;-) +1, th

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an imaginary oneway barrier

2014-02-01 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 01.02.2014 um 10:05 schrieb Pee Wee : > 1 Cut the way where the sign is and use a relation type : restriction. > 2 Add a node on the way where the sign is and add a motorcar:backward=no to > this node. (similar to traffic_sign:forward on a node that is part of a way) > 3 Cut the way where t

Re: [Tagging] How to tag max width at chicane-type bicycle barriers

2013-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.12.2013 um 10:44 schrieb Volker Schmidt : > Should I use "width" or "est_width" which normally indicates the width of a > way? Yes, you could tag the width to the portion of cycle way in the barrier. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Ta

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-01 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 01.12.2013 um 22:47 schrieb Jonathan : > :-) This whole discussion assumes cyclists obey traffic rules! In the UK > cyclists ride where they like! :-) In Italy as well, but in Germany they might even withdraw your driving license (for the car) if you did certain infractions Cheers, M

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-01 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 01.12.2013 um 22:38 schrieb Matthijs Melissen : > Perhaps the answer depends on the meaning of 'leading into the same > direction' in the convention: does making a turn qualifies as going in > a different direction +1 ___ Tagging mailing list Tag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-01 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 01.12.2013 um 20:26 schrieb Jonathan : > However, in this instance I'm prepared to change my vote to abstain. As long as you don't vote yes all votes are counted the same as a "no", an actual abstain requires to cast no vote at all Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 30.11.2013 um 21:25 schrieb Matthijs Melissen : > Cyclists shall be required to use the track if the track is running along a > carriageway, footpath or track for riders on horseback and leading into the > same direction Again a confirmation ("and leading into the same direction") that bicy

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 30.11.2013 um 18:40 schrieb Egil Hjelmeland : > contact:webcam= is fine, that tell we have a webcam. Do we really need > anything more to tell its a webcam? I think contact:webcam is nonsense, you can't contact someone via his webcam. Cheers, Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=highway

2013-11-29 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 29.11.2013 um 16:31 schrieb Tod Fitch : > Typical in the US is that the "right of way" (ROW) is the land on which a > carriage way is built. That land area is, if possible, quite a bit wider than > the traveled way and will include the land used for shoulders, drainage > systems, cuts and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gambling

2013-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 05.11.2013 um 22:14 schrieb Matthijs Melissen : > And what > is the opinion of other users about moving casino into the leisure tag > space? I don't see any advantage. Leisure so far was used mostly for sport related places, parks, nature reserves and playgrounds, generally casinos and eve

Re: [Tagging] Pre-proposal: Newsagent / Kiosk / Tobacco / TIcket shop

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.11.2013 um 17:25 schrieb sabas88 : > for tickets I'd like something like office=tickets (so we'll catch also the > place vending tickets outside a museum). I'd prefer shop= ticket_office as the key Office is used for different objects in osm Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Proposal - RFC - man_made=lamp

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.11.2013 um 14:52 schrieb Manuel Hohmann : > I propose the tag man_made=lamp for lamps, together with a number of > additional tags for lamp type, light source, power and so on. Central > motivations for this proposal are: Wouldn't it make more sense use the tag light_fixture (de Leuchte)

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gambling

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.11.2013 um 13:10 schrieb Matthijs Melissen : > - amenity=casino: A gambling place with at least one table game. I'm not sure if requiring a table game is a good idea, IIRR in Monte Carlo you can find casinos with only slot machines, but they won't qualify (iMHO) as gambling arcades as

Re: [Tagging] Pre-proposal: Newsagent / Kiosk / Tobacco / TIcket shop

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.11.2013 um 16:40 schrieb fly : > Did you mean that a kisok does not offer any indoor place for customers > but is only a counter with (covered) shelfs outdoor ? No, I meant that a kiosk is a small freestanding building, often polygonal (hexagon, octagon, etc.), but not a type of shop. W

Re: [Tagging] Pre-proposal: Newsagent / Kiosk / Tobacco / TIcket shop

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.11.2013 um 20:49 schrieb Matthijs Melissen : > Alright, so mapping Italian tobacco shops as shop=newsagent would not > make sense. On the other hand, in the Netherlands there are shops that > offer everything you might find in a German shop=tobacco (newspapers, > magazines, post stamps, lo

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Power transmission refinement - Rejected

2013-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 01.11.2013 um 19:08 schrieb François Lacombe : > And if we work on voltage description, we should prevent us from using values > with implicit voltage thresholds, like minor_line vs line. > IMHO here is a good reason to deprecate minor_line (and minor_cable, > minor_underground_cable...) :

Re: [Tagging] mapping qanats

2013-09-27 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 27.09.2013 um 21:33 schrieb Michał Sałaban : > However it might create confusion with already existing bridge=aqueduct. IMHO bridge=aqueduct is nonsense, we also don't use bridge=highway or railway, and aqueducts don't have to be bridges, they are also underground, or on solid walls/found

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 26.06.2013 um 00:25 schrieb Clifford Snow : > > A new tag called residential, where the value specifies the type of > residential, such as: > > residential=apartment > residential=condo > residential=co-op > residential=single_room_occupancy > > (these would be open for refinement and addi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - shop=bakery, bread_bakery, confectionery

2013-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 26.06.2013 um 00:00 schrieb Murry McEntire : > A proposal for improving the current misleading definitions and misuse of > bakery and confectionery; and a requested separation of bread bakeries from > bakeries of other bakery goods, is now open for voting. IMHO your conclusions seem US-c

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - gross weight

2013-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 25.06.2013 um 23:36 schrieb Kytömaa Lauri : > Therefore, the prohibiting sign with the "hgv symbol" only bans vehicles > registered as vans and hgv's, i.e. not for example buses. Unlike in for > example Germany, where that sign seems to refer to (gross) weight only. No, in Germany that si

Re: [Tagging] Underground power lines in tunnel

2013-06-05 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 05.06.2013 um 22:35 schrieb François Lacombe : > Can't we get the type=tunnel or type=bridge proposal voted and accepted ? This one, right? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Bridges_and_Tunnels +1 from me, although we don't need voting to use the tags ;-) an issue I s

Re: [Tagging] Underground power lines in tunnel

2013-06-05 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 05.06.2013 um 10:37 schrieb François Lacombe : > As you mentionned, the tunnel/bridge name can precise which bridge is > but it's not a relational (or even spatial) way of bringing objets > together. > > Ok a tunnel isn't easy to map since we can't use GPS. yes, but you can easily see wheth

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Substation Refinement

2013-05-21 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 21/mag/2013 um 23:28 schrieb Ole Nielsen : > power=station tag was really created by accident (German for substation is > "Station") whereas "power station" in English actually is a synonym for a > power plant actually in German a substation is called Umspannwerk (transformer station) wh

Re: [Tagging] Juice "restaurants"

2013-05-09 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 09.05.2013 um 15:20 schrieb Eric Sibert : >> I'd not choose amenity=cafe if they don't sell besides the juice also >> coffee. Look how quite specific the other tags are for places where you can >> drink, eg biergarten, pub, cafe, bar, kiosk, nightclub ... > > I'm wondering if the way we a

Re: [Tagging] Power generation refinement: power plant model evolution

2013-04-08 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 08/apr/2013 um 00:03 schrieb François Lacombe : > I'll update proposal with following generator tag values: generator=output or > generator=intermediate (generator=* key doesn't exist). I'd suggest a more specific key name like generator:role etc. Output and intermediate might seem a log

Re: [Tagging] Mismatched Level of Detail in highways vs. other elements

2013-04-07 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 07/apr/2013 um 22:55 schrieb Martin Atkins : > The photo misleads because the boarding islands make it look like there is a > separation between the railway and the roadway. In practice this is only true > next to the boarding islands; Then the highway should be split for the part that ru

Re: [Tagging] Power generation refinement: power plant model evolution

2013-04-07 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 07/apr/2013 um 16:34 schrieb François Lacombe : > Even if the spatial DB allows us to compute closed ways to get what is > inside, we don't have any distinguishing element associated to all that stuff. > Mainly, dealing with intermediate and output generators requires to know what > role i

Re: [Tagging] on-call bicycle ferry service

2012-12-07 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 07/dic/2012 um 03:23 schrieb Steve Bennett : > It sounds more like a water taxi. I'm not sure if that's a widely used term > in Europe, but they exist on some rivers here - you call up, it comes and > gets you. Not normally for bikes, but that still. In Venice there are both, and they sho

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools / ISCED update

2012-11-29 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 29/nov/2012 um 06:42 schrieb Andreas Labres : > BTW, there are many cases where more than one type of school reside in the > same > building/campus, eg. Volks- + Haupt/Mittelschule (6-15). > This is similar to shops, and i believe we could similarily distinguish here between 2 or more s

Re: [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from [talk-be] )

2012-11-21 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 21/nov/2012 um 11:25 schrieb "A.Pirard.Papou" : > created_by=(erased) > note=temporary node until nearby way speed limit is set > maxspeed=30 > source:maxspeed=http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=123619 > FIXME:tag same maxpeed and source:maxspeed onto the span of nearby way

Re: [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from [OSM-talk-be] )

2012-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 20/nov/2012 um 10:40 schrieb "A.Pirard.Papou" : > Well, do you think it would be useful to add those POIs and how? If they are sign positions I think they are useful. You can tag them with traffic_sign=maxspeed and maxspeed=30 on the sign position (to infer the direction). There is a JOSM

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: expanded address tags for US

2012-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 20/nov/2012 um 08:05 schrieb "David ``Smith''" : > That varies by city. In Cleveland, this is true. But in Columbus, 200 North > Third Street and 200 South Third Street are two distinct addresses on the > very same Third Street. > > Still, I think the Karlsruhe Schema is sufficient. I'm

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-19 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 19/nov/2012 um 08:46 schrieb Martin Vonwald : > As I'm pretty lazy I prefer to solve problems only once. Therefore I > would suggest the following (and would do it): > * create a wiki page for exit_to > * state its current use > * point to the key destination as better alternative and suggest

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: expanded address tags for US

2012-11-19 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 18/nov/2012 um 21:16 schrieb Steven Johnson : > These tags are necessary because unlike other countries, the US has no > nationwide house numbering/street naming standard. A nationwide standard might exist in some countries, but also for Germany and Italy, the countries I know best, I can

Re: [Tagging] RFC advertising

2012-10-28 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 28/ott/2012 um 15:32 schrieb Svavar Kjarrval : > In Iceland we sometimes have companies parking cars in public spaces or > in private land after making a deal with the owner. The cars are marked > with the company and almost always have advertising signs on the side. > How would that be marke

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

2012-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 16/ott/2012 um 11:28 schrieb Markus Lindholm : > To be able to do proper routing for emergency vehicles perhaps it > would be a good idea to introduce something like landuse=highway that > would denote an area suitable for motor vehicles and that is free of > physical obstacles. There is a

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 11/set/2012 um 14:55 schrieb Pieren : > If you specify the access for "customers", then you have to do it for > "employees" or "visitors" as well. Think about parkings or entrances > in theatres, hotels, airports, supermarkets, malls, factories, > hospitals, etc... I don't agree that detail

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 11/set/2012 um 14:17 schrieb Pieren : > > I'm currently trying to refresh a wiki translation of the Access key page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access > I think too that a signle value is enough as already mentionned there. > If we keep "customer", we need another one for "emp

Re: [Tagging] Ferry lines, ways or relations?

2012-09-07 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 07/set/2012 um 14:50 schrieb Janko Mihelić : > If we have a case of one boat going across a river, it should be one line, > one set of tags. But here on the Croatian coast, things are a bit more > complicated than that. Lines even have different variations that are used on > different days

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - man_made=kiln

2012-08-30 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 30/ago/2012 um 15:36 schrieb Richard Smith : > I would argue that oven on OSM is being used to describe a heating or cooking > device of food as almost all key values are wood_fired. I use oven=wood_fired for pizza shops with an oven like this, could also be used on special bakeries. Btw.