[Tagging] How to tag a campground drop box for payment of camping or parking fees?

What's a good way to tag a payment drop box, of the type used in the USA for campgrounds? You typically put money in an envelope, tear of a tab, and dop the payment into a metal tube slot. See: Camping In A National Park Made Easy: 9 Essential Tips - Southerner Says

Re: [Tagging] Two way street, but entry of motor vehicles blocked at one end. Relation correct? Tagging correct?

I could use *A one-way street with a counter-flow cycle lane* highway=unclassified oneway=yes oneway:bicycle=no cycleway=opposite_lane But motor traffic is allowed within the block, to go either way. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [Tagging] Two way street, but entry of motor vehicles blocked at one end. Relation correct? Tagging correct?

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 5:08 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > there is also > restriction=no_entry > I tried that, but could not get the from, via and to nodes to work out. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.o

[Tagging] Two way street, but entry of motor vehicles blocked at one end. Relation correct? Tagging correct?

Could somebody check if I get this relation correct? *Relation #17,613,415* type=restriction restriction=no_left_turn except=bicycles from Solano Avenue to Kains Avenue via 53062033 Kains Avenue is a two way street. Southbound it's open to all vehicles. Northbound barriers prevent motor vehicl

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Cell Phone Reception

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 2:23 PM Timothy Noname wrote: > I thinks it's definitely valuable to map areas where there is no coverage > at all as it's a safety issue > > On Sun, 6 Aug 2023, 21:30 Brian M. Sperlongano, > wrote: > >> This isn't really appropriate data for OSM, sorry. >> > The data chan

[Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

I recently went on a hike, guided only by OSMAnd. We ended up planning a route that took us uphill on what turned out to be a long series of one way downhill mountain bike flow tracks. I have no problem with the flow track: just had it been clearly delineated we would have planned a different rou

Re: [Tagging] Problems with amenity=charging_station

We now have national level efforts to map charging stations. In the USA there's a central database that has the name, owner and charge cord list for almost every station in the country. Unfortunately it does not have the *precise *position of the charger, usually just a street level address. Char

Re: [Tagging] Cattle bathroom

How about: amenity=car_wash vehicle=cow brushless=yes self_service=cattle_prod don't forget the outdoor version with an waterway=sheep_ramp leisure=sheep_tipping Erything above is :-). For real, note that sheep dips are more or less made obsolete by backliners.

[Tagging] Amenity "beach wheelchair". Wheelmap question.

What's a good tag for a wheelchair with big wheels, available for use by persons who might need it. Same category I suppose as a mobility scooter at a store, or any other specialized mobility device available for rent/borrow? ___ Tagging mailing list Tag

Re: [Tagging] Tagging horse hitching rail / hitching post / "horse parking"?

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Would be nice to have horse trough too. > How about: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dwatering_place ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://list

[Tagging] Tagging horse hitching rail / hitching post / "horse parking"?

How do I tag "designated horse parking", such as: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4398390415/history I don't see anything suitable at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Riding ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstr

Re: [Tagging] waterway=fairway?

> > On 18/07/2016 08:53, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> why "seamark:*"? >> > > This is historical. At the beginning of nautical navigation mapping, it > was buoys, beacons, lights, etc that were being mapped. In effect, it can be seen as "features that should appear on a nautical map". A seama

[Tagging] For comment: proposed mechanical edit: pitlatrine=yes to toilets:disposal=pitlatrine

See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits/Bryce_C_Nesbitt The semantics of the two tag styles are believed to be identical. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Subject: Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=social_path

One of the great things about OSM, is that it shows the informal social trails, cut through routes and fence gaps. One of the bad things about OSM, is that it shows the informal social trails, cut through routes and fence gaps. I've been mapping these highway=path, informal=yes. I feel that *acce

[Tagging] Tagging "bear boxes" (food storage for hikers). USA NPS and elsewhere.

I'm interested in tagging food storage lockers for backpackers and campers. The first of these were installed in Yosemite National park, California, for protecting food from bears. Newer versions have appeared in areas without bears, but where frequent camping has brought aggressive raccoons or ot

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - scheduled lifecycle value

A major milestone in a project is when the right of way is secured (meaning land is purchased, or easements signed). That still does not guarantee a project will be constructed, but it a definite step above "planned". ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@ope

Re: [Tagging] Please don't think name_1 tags are errors.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Ralph Aytoun wrote: > > New mappers have a lot to learn. They have enough of a problem just > learning how to use the tools and finding out what basic tagging is without > being inundated with error messages telling them they cannot save their > work because of so

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: > > My first thought is that even fewer people will understand what this is > than understand what a "bicycle repair station" is. As I said back in > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-November/027436.html > I'd suggest th

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

Any quick comments on this schema, before I write it up? amenity=self_serve_tool_station brand=Dero Fixit operator=Metro Country Trails opening_hours=24/7 self_serve_tool_station:bicycles=yes self_serve_tool_station:snow_sports=no self_serve_tool_station:ice_skates=no self_serve_tool_station:skate

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: > An alternative suggestion - lobby the authors of iD to include the word > "repair" in the "bicycle shop" description, or otherwise influence the > search results. If you search for "bicycle", bicycle shop is ahead of > bicycle repair statio

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 5:46 AM, Erik Johansson wrote: > > amenity=diy_tool_station > bicycle=yes > iceskates=yes > locked=yes > opening_hours=during games. > > I only know of one for iceskates though, can I can't remember why it > wasn't made a generic tag, the current tag is a bit like > subway

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

Here's another confusion along these lines: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30749887 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 4:24 AM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > I don't see how a name change will help. > amenity=bicycle_repair_station and service:bycicle:repair=yes are > rather self-explanatory and well defined as far as I can tell. > Abandoning a tag because some large contributor misuses it is

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Andrew Guertin wrote: > A quick search shows me there are 1922 total things mapped > amenity=bicycle_repair_station, and of those 311 have a name tag. Assuming > that all of the repair shops will have a name tag, and only some of the > things with names are shops,

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > Bryce, > I've found a couple of these. One was exactly where the node was placed. > The other, in Omaha, was a substantial ways away. And I still have found > any of the four at the University of Washington in Seattle. I'm concerned > that th

[Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

amenity=bicycle_repair_station has a problem: it's attracting lots of active tagging of shops offering bicycle repair. For example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3772809894 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/337421757 That was not the intent. amenity=bicycle_repair_station was meant for u

Re: [Tagging] More human readable values for traffic signs

How about traffic_sign:transcription=__ For a copy, in the local language, of the text on the sign. This is what a GPS might speak to you (or, if blind people drove cars, what you'd say to them): traffic_sign=no_parking traffic_sign:transcription=No truck parking 8am-9am on scho

Re: [Tagging] waterway=penstock to complete pipeline tagging

On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 4:41 AM, François Lacombe wrote: > > Currently, I find something missing regarding man_made=pipeline + > substance=water because a pipe carrying water can correspond to many > things in reality. > man_made=pipeline + substance=water + *waterway=penstock* would fill the > lac

Re: [Tagging] large roof garden

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Richard wrote: > On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:45:21AM -0400, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: > > > > roof:material=plants > > > > The City of Toronto mandates "green roofs" on most new buildings. They > > generally only cover part of the roof surface though. Ok, THAT gras

Re: [Tagging] Semi-detached houses: undocumented iD preset

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 5:02 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > it depends how you use the word "Doppelhaus". Legally it means 2 touching > houses on 2 parcels. Architectonically it means 2 more or less symmetric > buildings that touch. They don't have to share the same materials or > colours (mos

Re: [Tagging] barrier enforcing maxwidth

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: > I don't think a new tag is warranted. maxwidth=* is fairly unequivocal. > If map users or routers want to interpret it as "max width, but probably > not really, there's probably a bit of extra space, I mean, who's going to > be that petty

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Richard wrote: > Just wondered - when did anyone here last see a wheelchair=no road sign? > Is any > of these 214658 tags correct? > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/?key=wheelchair&value=no wheelchair=no is defined by http://wheelmap.org/ conventions, and

Re: [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Is there some method to automate finding who introduced tags? Doing it > manually would not be worth the effort. On the other hand - running > script to detect users (and/or relevant changesets) may be a good idea. Yes. I find the st

Re: [Tagging] Amenities for kids parties

A general tag for "rentable for events" would be great, where events may be open, or be specific like weddings or birthday parties for children. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] sport vs. leisure: High Ropes Course and Climbing Adventure

For example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2526893818/history Part of a larger park with four attractions. There are more tagging styles here: taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=ropes_course#values ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] sport vs. leisure: High Ropes Course and Climbing Adventure

I see the ropes courses as a type of amusement or theme park, and in fact many of them are part of a larger facility. Thus "tourism", not sport or leisure. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dtheme_park with http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:attraction of "high_

Re: [Tagging] oil binding agent?

Note the subtle spelling difference between absorption and adsorption: http://www.integrityabsorbents.com/content/abvsad.php ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Draft tag for Airport Security Zones | Non-voting procedure

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Paul Norman wrote: > They also tend to be less useful features because it's easier to look up > for a restroom sign than use a device. > Agreed for restrooms. For charging stations, which are less well signed and numerous, I seem OSM as adding value. If you kno

Re: [Tagging] Draft tag for Airport Security Zones | Non-voting procedure

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > As someone who has been doing too many flights lately, in Canada > airports often have domestic, international, and trans-border. Trans-border > is for flights to or from the US and have a special customs arrangement. > This is, unfortunately

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

Please folks, let's keep a bit of perspective. There are *many* reasons OSM is not the place to micromap indoor private areas of any sort, secure or not. However back to the task at hand: If a mapper can transit through a security zone while travelling, it's fair game to map. Toilets, drinking wat

Re: [Tagging] Tagging hand operated bicycle pumps (compressed_air)

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Why not amenity=compressed_air + access:motor_vehicle=no ? I don't > understand what's the problem with that tag. > probably better: access=no access:bicycle=yes (otherwise everything other than a motor vehicle is assumed yes). __

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] README tag with editor support

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: > The readme tag is more of a bandaid. A better way might be to capture the > image date as a tag. The editor could then issue a warning message if the > image date is older than the feature being modified. > The readme is more flexible. Ou

Re: [Tagging] Tagging hand operated bicycle pumps (compressed_air)

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > repair station with tools=no seems a misnamer. like tagging a water sink > as toilet, with toilet_bowl=no squat_toilet=no, hole_in_the_ground=no ;-) > Thus your proposal is? __

[Tagging] Draft tag for Airport Security Zones | Non-voting procedure

See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/security_zone Now I'm not going to run a regular vote on this. The wiki vote process attracts a small number of non-representative and rather argumentative mappers. Discussion about the tag is welcome. But instead of "voting" I challenge

Re: [Tagging] Airport Security Zones (from pet relief area thread)

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:52 AM, johnw wrote: > >> I would hate for a gas station icon to pop up somewhere where I couldn’t >> access it with normal transportation or not really be a “gas station” > > > Devil's advocate: For quite a few p

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > The 'sterile' I think is redundant. > > The sterile is *not* redundant, it's a grouping classifier. Very important, given the blizzard of motley tags that may follow it. aeroway_security=sida:xx aeroway_security

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:28 PM, johnw wrote: > > On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > But Aeroway=secure_area might be a usefull property tag to have ? > Would have applicatrion to those shops 'inside' the 'secure area'. > > > This would be a very good attribut

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

One could tag every power outlet that seems to be in a public space. For many years I charged my laptop at > airports by finding the places the cleaning crew plugged in their vacuum > cleaners. But that sort of accidental > charging station is of a different character to a designated place. >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging hand operated bicycle pumps (compressed_air)

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:37 PM, John Willis wrote: > Maybe it can be tagged with a variant of this? > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station > bicycle_repair_station:pump=yes > bicycle_repair_station:tools=no > The question is which of these tags can stand as th

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/06/2015 6:17 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > >> A tag is needed for"inside secure area" or not ideas? >> >> > Humm ... > 'inside'? > As in inside a building? W

[Tagging] Tagging hand operated bicycle pumps (compressed_air)

What kind of tagging would work for hand operated public bike pumps? Something likely to meet the needs of data consumers, and thus eventually be processed and rendered? See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcompressed_air https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3585224997/history http:

Re: [Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

A tag is needed for"inside secure area" or not ideas? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > +1 > I would expect an available mains socket is the norm, a USB socket is > rather fragile for public use. There are tens of thousands of public USB sockets. Vendors in China make special rugged sockets just for this. Plus, if you take t

[Tagging] Airport "Pet Relief Areas" (toilet and watering spot for pet and service animals)

062#map=19/37.71141/-122.20997 Reviews of such areas without maps: http://www.dogjaunt.com/guides/airport-pet-relief-areas/ On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > How might we tag "Pet Relief Areas" > http://opendoorsnfp.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ReliefGu

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/06/2015 4:44 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Device_Charging_Station >> > The name works well for the intended use. > > Howe

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

Here's a writeup on a "Duck" tag for this feature: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Device_Charging_Station https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3539479319/history I strongly feel that amenity=charging_station is fully entrenched as a vehicle charging station, and thus a new tag

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

Using one global scheme could make rendering easier, but muddy the meaning of the place. Usnig regional schemes would match map reader expectations, but likely lag in terms of rendering support and processnig support. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@open

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (US:DMV)

These are very specific government agencies. This may be a place where regionally specific tags work best. Maybe pretty it up with a namespace. office=goverment admin_level=4 office:type:california=DMV office=goverment admin_level=4 office:type:massachusetts=RMV name=Massachusetts

Re: [Tagging] RFD tag:shop=camera?

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:40 AM, John Eldredge wrote: > There is an obvious limit to the number of types of icons that can be > rendered on any one map before it becomes incomprehensible. Rendering can choose to use the same symbol for two tags. One tag however can't become two symbols. While t

Re: [Tagging] SHAPE_Leng, SHAPE_Area, GIS_ACRES

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: > I am encountering the tags SHAPE_Leng, SHAPE_Area, GIS_ACRES on US > National Forests. If I am making other edits to the OSM element in > question, can these be deleted? Converted to some other tag? > Those are leavings from an import. GIS

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:04 PM, pmailkeey . wrote: > iD shows oneway=unknown if it's not set. If it's unknown, iD should not > show oneway at all. > OSM's k=v design is completely a serious and unnecessary flaw. Similarly > are 'categories' like man_made', and 'amenity'. > Why can we not simply s

Re: [Tagging] dock=tidal

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Malcolm Herring < malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com> wrote: > On 29/05/2015 08:41, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > >> Why is this a property of the dock, >> rather than a property of the water body. >> > > A dock is a body of water. I

Re: [Tagging] dock=tidal

Why is this a property of the dock, rather than a property of the water body. What's wrong with "floating" vs. "fixed"? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] To mark as covered, or to not mark as covered?

Here is another excessively mapped "covered" tag: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/182529550 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] housenumber on node and area

If a building is all one address, I see no reason not to tag the building outline. If there are multiple addresses, then nodes are a good way to go. Both schemes are in use. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 26/05/2015 3:23 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > based on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Animal > > On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Bryce Nesbitt > wrote: > >> While the names are c

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

While the names are confusing, the concepts seem to be: 1) Hitching racks for temporarily restraining a dog. 2) A place for unleashed dog play and socialization. 3) Place to obtain dog waste bags. 4) Pet service areas, including a dedicated place for pets to defecate, possibly indoors. This is no

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

Here's another example of this type of feature: http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2014/04/16/brisbane-airport-opens-australias-first-assistance-animals-facility/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Rafael Avila Coya wrote: > Hi Bryce: > Have you ever done any single task of any Tasking Manager project? > From your comments, it seems you are completely wrong on what the Tasking > Manager is about. > Cheers, > Rafael. > Why, yes I have used the tasking manage

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Because it become available to others .. like the government/local > authorities who may be in charge of repairs? > Crowd source databases are not appropriate sources for government/local action at that level. Were there i

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 5:02 AM, Blake Girardot wrote: > > The intention of the damage:event=* or maybe disaster:event=* tag doesn't > have much to do with assigning causation, and has more to do with tag > maintenance. We want to be able to run projects that get objects that were > tagged with a

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Richard Z. wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 09:52:06PM -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > Note that just because you can collect some data, does not make it a good > > idea to put in OSM. Maintenance is harder than collection: and who's > goi

[Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit for comment: amenity=ev_charging

109 uses of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dev_charging remain, though http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station has long since taken over. The proposed edit will move over the nodes that make sense, and completely remove amenity=ev_charging from the datase

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Thanks for the great suggestions. I'm typing on an iPhone so will respond > fully after I reach my final destination. > > amenity=charging_station with subtags for clarification seems to fill the > bill. > > I think that's a choice with hi

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

Duck tagging it's not. One could consider the horrors of tagging: *amenity=charging_stationvoltage=5socket:usb=4* >From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station But I think that's just as bad an idea as amenity=fuel;vehicle=no. ---

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

Note that just because you can collect some data, does not make it a good idea to put in OSM. Maintenance is harder than collection: and who's going to go back three years after the HOT event and clean up? - Keep in mind this tagging mailing list is a tiny and non-representative slice

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Rafael Avila Coya wrote: > Hi, Bryce: > Yes. Everything is temporary. So whatever we do in OSM for temporary > objects has to be applied to ALL objects. > We don't store the number of chickens found in each compound. We do store railways, the traces of which are

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Blake Girardot wrote: > > Damage info has been tagged in OSM for a long time. > OSM already tags a lot of temporary and transient stuff. > > We are aware of the nature of the tags and want to be able to review, > maintain the remove the tags, it is one of the ma

Re: [Tagging] Damage Assessment Tags - Would like feedback on a schema

I feel this is a good example of a database that should use OSM as a base layer. A rendering engine can match a given primary key for, say, a building outline to the given damage assessment tag. --- Damage assessment data is very transitory, compared to the lifetime of objects in OSM. __

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Am 18.05.2015 um 19:26 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt : > > *Note 1:* > I'd rather duck tag this as an "*amenity=pet_relief_area / > dog_facilities=yes / cat_facilities=no*&quo

Re: [Tagging] Long Tail ( was Removal of "amenity" from OSM tagging)

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > I invite each user to join our Meetup Group and invite them to contact me > if they have any questions. The response rate is low. A survey could help > us identify why they joined, how they want to use OSM and what special > interests they

Re: [Tagging] Long Tail ( was Removal of "amenity" from OSM tagging)

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: > In the last week,11-May to 17-May, OSM increased the number of users [1] > by 10,700. Think of the results if each of those new users were to add just > one edit a week. You might ask, so what is keeping people from editing? We > could spe

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:32 AM, John Willis wrote: > Since so may people in Japan travel with small dogs, most parking areas and many service areas have "pet areas" (I think they are called), where you can let your dog out of the car and walk them or let them deficate. This is not an enclosed sp

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

A lot of those end up as natural=water. I suppose man_made=yes could be added. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

These stations are in facilities such as airports, and they are open to whatever animal needs them: pets, service dogs, and unruly children as appropriate. Many of them are indoors. Since they are likely to include access to dog waste bags, they could be a subtag under vending. Ugh. _

Re: [Tagging] On appointment restaurant

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:17 PM, André Pirard wrote: > > And you make me discover a very fundamental rule I didn't notice after 36 > readings: that the tokens can be literal strings. And I wonder how software > supposed to tell whether it's open can understand strings. > Software can't. The dirt

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

The stations I'm talking about are often indoors. See the linked PDF in the original message. For example they may be in an international transit zone in an airport where neither the passenger nor the animal may leave to access the outside. These definitely do not double as cricket pitches. __

[Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

How might we tag "Pet Relief Areas" http://opendoorsnfp.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ReliefGuideRev.pdf This is not: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:vending%3Dexcrement_bags or http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddog_bin or dog_waste_bin or a variety of other tags, thoug

Re: [Tagging] man_made=apiary or ?

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:30 AM, Anders Anker-Rasch wrote: > < http://apiarymap.com/ , perhaps it's better to see a partner rather than > a parallel effort. Reach out to those folks and see if they'd be willing > to switch base maps, and harmonize data for display.>> > > I've looked into apiary

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:56 AM, Jo wrote: > not by name, explicitely, but that's how we've been using it since the very > beginning. It will be really hard to change that. We also have maxheight and > maxwidth, I think it's obvious those are hard limits, not advisory. That's fuzzy also. A sign

Re: [Tagging] General tagging system problems (was: shop=confectionery / pastry / candy / sweets)

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I'm not convinced that such a generic approach will help to get > unambiguous tagging, e.g. > children + education + building (= school building) -> architectural > school? language school? ... > vehicle + education (= driving school

Re: [Tagging] General tagging system problems

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > > That said the google approach would be to infer everything from text, >> social and web linking analysis: >> name=Fred's Bakery >> website=http://freds.example.org/ [1] >> > > As we already have these informations, we could just ignore the r

Re: [Tagging] man_made=apiary or ?

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:11 PM, SomeoneElse wrote: > However, even when hives are moved around for pollination don't they still > have a nominal "home"? > > No. Maybe a winter home, or a regular rotation. It's more like a food truck: there may be a regular rotation. In terms of strategy for *

Re: [Tagging] General tagging system problems (was: shop=confectionery / pastry / candy / sweets)

Something that gets proposed from time to time is a tree hierarchy: shop=food:bakery:muffins+sweets:cookie That said the google approach would be to infer everything from text, social and web linking analysis: name=Fred's Bakery website=http://freds.example.org/ __

Re: [Tagging] surface=brick -> surface=bricks?

Given that humans do the mapping, stamping out either the plural or singular form will prove "not worth it". Parsers that want to be complete will need to accept both. *Be conservative in what you do, be liberal in what you accept from others.* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle _

Re: [Tagging] surface=brick -> surface=bricks?

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Neither is documented at wiki but meaning seems clear and synonymous. > > surface=bricks is used 1997 times, surface=brick 541 times. > > surface=bricks is also consistent with plural form of popular > countable surface values - surface=

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

In the USA one occasionally sees "local traffic only" signed. It's meant to counter cut-through traffic by commuters and delivery trucks. One city installed physical barriers to such use: http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/ContentDisplay.aspx?id=8238#Diverters http://quirkyberkeley.com/fire-hydrants-a

Re: [Tagging] Roads with motor vehicle access limited to residents of a specific town

At some point you throw up your hands and ask "what does it say on the sign"? access:motorcar=see_note barrier=sign sign:text=Requires campus NL permit with toll tag transponder. Delivery excepted. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:04 AM, James Mast wrote: > However, I wouldn't be opposed if we wanted to tag them as 'maxspeed:ramp=35 > mph', but only if we could get the routers on board as that does help in the > time estimates and also to harp a user if he's going, say, 20 mph over the > 'ramp' spe

Re: [Tagging] access tags (was contact: tags)

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:42 AM, André Pirard wrote: > It's really difficult to have it understood that GPS software blindly obeys > rules and that tags must also strictly obey the same rules for the GPSes to > work. The many many routing tags errors are a real PITA. Even wrong > instructions

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