Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 09:32, Paul Allen wrote: > > However, if we count that as a farm shop then the term essentially becomes > an alias of greengrocer. > A greengrocer with a single supplier, but still a greengrocer. > True, but under that theory, there's no difference between a convenience sto

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread stevea
On Oct 3, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > Or maybe something like this? https://www.facebook.com/TempleBarFarm/ > I added the farm nearly a year ago. Held off on adding what they call the > "farm shop" because it had recently moved from Llwynhelyg Farm across > the road, was still settlin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 4:31 PM Paul Allen wrote: > >> I would say not, by my understanding of the term. But I can't guarantee > my understanding matches general UK usage. However, if we count that > as a farm shop then the term essentially becomes an alias of greengrocer. > A greengrocer with a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 00:09, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 08:31, Paul Allen wrote: > >> >> More than good enough for me. It's verifiable, so ought to be good >> enough for >> anybody else. I'm interested in cheap test equipment, are the Avos old or >> new? :) >> > > New

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 23:41, stevea wrote: > > especially on higher-speed primary or trunk highways in rural farming > country as you'll get one, two or three signs: "1/2 mile ahead, fresh > apples, stone fruits and pies!" with cheerful graphics of cherries and > baked goods. shop=farm_stand, i

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 08:03, Peter Elderson wrote: > Is it private sale? > Yes On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 08:31, Paul Allen wrote: > > More than good enough for me. It's verifiable, so ought to be good enough > for > anybody else. I'm interested in cheap test equipment, are the Avos old or > new

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Clifford Snow
I use the tag shop=farm. It's been around for a while. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dfarm -- @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.ope

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread stevea
I'm glad someone mentioned these, they are common and have been here for decades up and down California. Like food trucks, they come and go with frequent irregularity. Sometimes they are more-permanent, sometimes they are ephemeral. > On Oct 3, 2020, at 2:35 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 22:37, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 00:39, Paul Allen wrote: > >> >> More important is if there is a sign, >> > > Hand-painted signs saying "Horse manure", "Avo's", "Firewood", "Eggs" & so > on good enough? > More than good enough for me. It's verifia

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Peter Elderson
Is it private sale? Vr gr Peter Elderson Op za 3 okt. 2020 om 23:37 schreef Graeme Fitzpatrick : > > > > On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 00:39, Paul Allen wrote: > >> >> More important is if there is a sign, >> > > Hand-painted signs saying "Horse manure", "Avo's", "Firewood", "Eggs" & so > on good enou

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 00:39, Paul Allen wrote: > > More important is if there is a sign, > Hand-painted signs saying "Horse manure", "Avo's", "Firewood", "Eggs" & so on good enough? We see lot's of them whenever we go for a drive in the country, & even the occasional one in town! shop=farm_gat

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 16:45, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > agreed that "game" would likely lead to problems. Technically, I am not > sure these places the OP is asking about are "butchers". > In British English, they are butchers. And, in British English, a butcher's shop sells fresh cuts of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Sa., 3. Okt. 2020 um 14:38 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 13:22, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> shop=* seems ok for me. > > > And for me. There are "formal" shops which open only 2 days a week. Or > have limited hours. Or surly staff. You go there and buy stuff, it'

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 15:05, Peter Elderson wrote: > I think for tagging it should be more than the occasional road-side sale? > I think that would depend upon what you mean by "occasional." We have opening_hours to deal with that. More important is if there is a sign, or newspaper advertiseme

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Peter Elderson
I think for tagging it should be more than the occasional road-side sale? Best, Peter Elderson Op za 3 okt. 2020 om 14:38 schreef Paul Allen : > On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 13:22, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> shop=* seems ok for me. > > > And for me. There are "formal" shops which open only

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 13:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > shop=* seems ok for me. And for me. There are "formal" shops which open only 2 days a week. Or have limited hours. Or surly staff. You go there and buy stuff, it's a shop. > Maybe “game” would be ok as value. > I think not. Too

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 3. Oct 2020, at 12:15, Alan Mackie wrote: > > This seems to me to be a relative of market stalls. Smaller concerns that are > 'staffed' but usually have very focussed or limited stock. +1, with possibly varying merchandise according to the season or other factors. sh

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. Oct 2020, at 20:28, stevea wrote: > > The term "direct_marketing" is used in various dialects of English around the > world as meaning something wholly different than your proposed usage here. even in German it is used for a kind of advertising (sending “individual

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting suspended - (funeral hall=*)

2020-10-03 Thread wolle68
I have suspended the voting, because there - finally - is a real discussion. Am 02.10.2020 18:38 schrieb woll...@posteo.de: Dear list, Please vote on the following proposal: A building or room for funeral ceremonies ancillary to a funeral directors shop or a crematorium (subtag) Proposal pag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Alan Mackie
This seems to me to be a relative of market stalls. Smaller concerns that are 'staffed' but usually have very focussed or limited stock. Part way between a fullblown store and a vending machine, you would not expect to see the facilities you might get in a "proper" shop or as many payment means (th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

2020-10-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
3 paź 2020, 02:44 od frede...@remote.org: > Hi, > > On 10/2/20 19:56, Wieland Kestler wrote: > >> I agree absolutely that somone who makes bread by itself and sells that >> in front of its house, we should tag it by shop=bakery. So the grade of >> „selfmadeness“ does not matter. >> > > We are n