Re: [Tagging] Tagging small areas of bushes, flowers, non-woody perennials, succulents, etc

2020-02-09 Thread John Willis via Tagging
> On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> and not >> everyone is happy about using natural=scrub for this case. +1 When I go to a garden, there is not natural=scrub growing in manicured rows along the garden paths, separating the flower beds. that’s like using natura

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

2020-02-09 Thread John Willis via Tagging
> On Feb 7, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Peter Elderson wrote: > > If area=yes is added to say a leisure area surrounded by a hedge, that is a > mapping mistake. If that results in the area displaying as a hedge area, the > mapper has to correct that, not the renderer. exactly! If I want a hedge arou

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

2020-02-09 Thread Jeroen Hoek
On 09-02-20 12:36, Peter Elderson wrote: > For the record, I am not opposed to renderers, data users or toolmakers > reporting a problem or an improvement request and asking the taggers > list to come up with a solution everyone can live with. Information in > the database should be renderable and

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

2020-02-09 Thread Peter Elderson
OSM Carto stopped rendering barrier=hedge, area=yes as a hedge barrier area, without proper announcement. Immediately this was reported as a problem, because it is established and documente tagging and many people noticed the change. The right way to handle this is to revert this particular change

Re: [Tagging] Tagging small areas of bushes, flowers, non-woody perennials, succulents, etc

2020-02-09 Thread Peter Elderson
The landcover key covers this nicely. For hedge barrier areas, tag barrier=hedge for the perimeter, then landcover=hedge to indicate the hedge covers the area (do not land a balloon there and don't plan to walk through it). The combined information is then exactly the same as barrier=hedge, area=y

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting closed - give box

2020-02-09 Thread Markus Peloso
Hi I close voting for give_box. Because the current documentation of the proposal process is ambiguous how "abstain" should be counted, I set the status to "undefined" until this is clarified. Talk:Proposal_process#Clarify_whatev

Re: [Tagging] Tagging small areas of bushes, flowers, non-woody perennials, succulents, etc

2020-02-09 Thread Jerry Clough via Tagging
I've wondered about this for a while. There is a need to map these features both within large gardens (particularly those which are tourist attractions), parkland, campus locations and even typical townscapes. For reference I wrote about botantical gardens some time ago: http://sk53-osm.blogsp

Re: [Tagging] Tagging small areas of bushes, flowers, non-woody perennials, succulents, etc

2020-02-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 9 feb 2020, alle ore 09:29, Joseph Eisenberg > ha scritto: > > However, we still may need a way to tag ornamental plants that do not > produce significant flowers, for example, succulents and plants with > ornamental leaves but no flowers. I would not call a deco

Re: [Tagging] Tagging small areas of bushes, flowers, non-woody perennials, succulents, etc

2020-02-09 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Thank you for the link to landuse=flowerbed. That tag seems to have some acceptance in a variety of countries, and works quite well for areas of flowering plants. However, we still may need a way to tag ornamental plants that do not produce significant flowers, for example, succulents and plants w

Re: [Tagging] Tagging small areas of bushes, flowers, non-woody perennials, succulents, etc

2020-02-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 9 feb 2020, alle ore 04:53, Graeme Fitzpatrick > ha scritto: > > On that page, though, I just noticed a fairly recent amendment to include > reference to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dflowerbed - > used ~4000 times so possibly worth paying a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging small areas of bushes, flowers, non-woody perennials, succulents, etc

2020-02-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 9 feb 2020, alle ore 03:35, Joseph Eisenberg > ha scritto: > > In the discussion about `barrier=hedge` areas, it is clear that > mappers want a way to tag small areas of bushes and shrubs, and not > everyone is happy about using natural=scrub for this case. you