Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:golf=cartpath

2019-05-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
27 May 2019, 01:42 by joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com: > The problem with using service=* is that some golf cart paths may > appear to be too narrow for full-size motor vehicles, so they are > mapped as highway=path instead. > Is there anything wrong with using service tag on highway=footway? We an

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:tourism=camp_pitch

2019-05-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
This proposal would deprecate camp_site=camp_pitch and camp_site=pitch, replacing these tags with tourism=camp_pitch: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_pitch All 3 tags are currently in use to tag an individual pitch (a.k.a tent site or caravan site in US Eng

[Tagging] RFC - Tag:tourism=camp_pitch

2019-05-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
This proposal would deprecate camp_site=camp_pitch and camp_site=pitch, replacing these tags with tourism=camp_pitch: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_pitch All 3 tags are currently in use to tag an individual pitch (a.k.a tent site or caravan site in US Eng

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - changing table - self referencing description

2019-05-26 Thread Warin
On 27/05/19 12:02, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I agree that the subject is missing (I'm a native American English speaker). My wife suggests: "provides a surface for changing the nappy (diaper) of an infant or young child" Almost agree :) "A surface for replacing the nappy (diaper) of an infant

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - changing table - self referencing description

2019-05-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I agree that the subject is missing (I'm a native American English speaker). My wife suggests: "provides a surface for changing the nappy (diaper) of an infant or young child" On 5/27/19, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 26/05/19 19:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Am So., 26. Mai 2019

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - changing table - self referencing description

2019-05-26 Thread Warin
On 26/05/19 19:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am So., 26. Mai 2019 um 02:08 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com >: Could become "Provides for replacing the nappy/diaper of very young children." I am not a native speaker, to me this sentence looks as

Re: [Tagging] Telephone poles and lines?

2019-05-26 Thread Warin
I don't know. There are a few other things to map of more use than the local poles, sorry. But i wanted to point out that poles are frequently used for more than a single use. I'd go with man_made=utility_pole... On 27/05/19 09:18, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Are these pole currently mapped with

Re: [Tagging] Telephone poles and lines?

2019-05-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Nita Rae, Do you know of any utility poles, telephone poles or other poles carrying communications cables that have been mapped in your area? How have they been tagged? Do you have a preference for how to map poles that don't carry any power wires or cables? On 5/27/19, Nita Rae Sanders wrote:

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:golf=cartpath - correction

2019-05-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I've created a complete proposal page for golf=cartpath: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:golf%3Dcartpath (EDITED: Link fixed) This tag has been used to specify that a path is a cart path within a golf course, designated for the use of golf carts. Please discuss if this

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:golf=cartpath

2019-05-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Yes, that's the right link: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:golf%3Dcartpath > In my opinion it is very useful to tag golf cart paths additionally to highway=service. However, i think a service=* sub-tag like e.g. service=golf_cart_path (instead of golf=cartpath) would bet

Re: [Tagging] Telephone poles and lines?

2019-05-26 Thread Nita Rae Sanders
My own take is that it is a 'mixed use utility pole' without regard to which utilities are using it. You could potentially then apply tags to designate which utilities are actually present. Very large poles (e.g. 230KV and up) would typically not have other utilities on them, but there may be corne

Re: [Tagging] Telephone poles and lines?

2019-05-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Are these pole currently mapped with power=pole? On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 7:50 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Around me, the 'poles' carry; > > power, > > cable internet, > > cable TV (some times the cable carries both TV and internet combined) and > > telephone. > > The don't usually h

Re: [Tagging] Telephone poles and lines?

2019-05-26 Thread Warin
Around me, the 'poles' carry; power, cable internet, cable TV (some times the cable carries both TV and internet combined) and telephone. The don't usually have poles for each service. The provision of a national internet service that provides a combined telephone service means that the tel

Re: [Tagging] Filter bubbles in OSM

2019-05-26 Thread ET Commands
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 01:11:08 +0200 From: Frederik Ramm To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Filter bubbles in OSM [...] People have a right to be treated with respect, but that does not mean that we need to extend US American style courtesy to everyone because US Americans

Re: [Tagging] building=bank

2019-05-26 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 5/26/19 07:42, Volker Schmidt wrote: > My personal experience is that banks typically occupy part of a building > only. > I could not describe any specific features that distinguishes a bank > building from other office or commercial buildings.  In a lot of US cities, particularly smaller towns

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:golf=cartpath

2019-05-26 Thread Markus
In my opinion it is very useful to tag golf cart paths additionally to highway=service. However, i think a service=* sub-tag like e.g. service=golf_cart_path (instead of golf=cartpath) would better fit to the current highway tagging scheme. Regards Markus

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:golf=cartpath

2019-05-26 Thread Markus
On Sun, 26 May 2019 at 18:39, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > link? Seems to be this one: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:golf%3Dcartpath Regards Markus ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstre

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:golf=cartpath

2019-05-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
26 May 2019, 14:08 by joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com: > I've created a complete proposal page for golf=cartpath > link? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] building=bank

2019-05-26 Thread Gerd Petermann
dieterdreist wrote > I agree JOSM should not issue a warning for it, did you try to open an > issue at josm.openstreetmap.de and see what they say? > > The JOSM validator warnings about unknown tags are helpful to spot typos, > but an unknown tag (unknown to the validator) otherwise does not imply

[Tagging] _Would_ Xist abuse be banned? | Re: Filter bubbles in OSM

2019-05-26 Thread Rory McCann
On 25.05.19 01:11, Frederik Ramm wrote: Threats of violence, racist or sexist abuse would get someone kicked out whether or not we have codified rules or processes. Really? That should be written down and defined. Because people _always_ argue that what they said wasn't racist/sexist/homophobi

Re: [Tagging] Non-orthogonal crossing=* tag proposals: crossing=marked/unmarked vs crossing:markings=yes/no

2019-05-26 Thread Nick Bolten
> The zebra markings at traffic lights might be a fallback for when the lights are turned off or not operating regularly (e.g. blinking yellow light) This is a good point and could potentially be relevant for disaster response / evacuation procedures. On Sat, May 25, 2019, 3:39 PM Martin Koppenho

Re: [Tagging] Non-orthogonal crossing=* tag proposals: crossing=marked/unmarked vs crossing:markings=yes/no

2019-05-26 Thread Nick Bolten
I think I'll start using access=no as well, that's a good idea. On Sat, May 25, 2019, 8:44 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > 24 May 2019, 23:41 by nbol...@gmail.com: > > > What sort of feature gets tagged crossing=no? Does one draw a line or > node to represent the footway that isn't there? >

Re: [Tagging] Non-orthogonal crossing=* tag proposals: crossing=marked/unmarked vs crossing:markings=yes/no

2019-05-26 Thread Nick Bolten
> Legal status/right of way as far as pedestrians and drivers on the road are concerned. Ah, I see. This is not as clear-cut as it might seem, worldwide. There are many laws on the books about marked crossings that are not directly superceded by the existence of signals. It can get pretty complex:

Re: [Tagging] building=bank

2019-05-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2019-05-26 at 15:21 +0200, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I agree with you, that there are these "churches of capitalism" that > undeniably look like banks. But the problem is that this is small > fraction only of all banks. > The risk is that many typical office buildings will become bank > buil

Re: [Tagging] building=bank

2019-05-26 Thread Volker Schmidt
I agree with you, that there are these "churches of capitalism" that undeniably look like banks. But the problem is that this is small fraction only of all banks. The risk is that many typical office buildings will become bank buildings because there is a bank business inside, but not because they

Re: [Tagging] building=bank

2019-05-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/05/2019 13:42, Volker Schmidt wrote: My personal experience is that banks typically occupy part of a building only. I could not describe any specific features that distinguishes a bank building from other office or commercial buildings. That's one of those things that is going to vary hu

Re: [Tagging] building=bank

2019-05-26 Thread Volker Schmidt
My personal experience is that banks typically occupy part of a building only. I could not describe any specific features that distinguishes a bank building from other office or commercial buildings. On Sun, 26 May 2019, 11:09 Martin Koppenhoefer, wrote: > there is also global distribution: > h

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:golf=cartpath

2019-05-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I've created a complete proposal page for golf=cartpath This tag has been used to specify that a path is a cart path within a golf course, designated for the use of golf carts. Please discuss if this tag is necessary and useful in combination with highway=service or highway=path and golf_cart=des

Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in

2019-05-26 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 26 May 2019 at 10:51, bkil wrote: > By the way, don't get me wrong, it is a perfectly valid desire to tag > these. $SUBJECT has occurred to me as well in the past. In such cases, I > looked for the full address, other text on mailboxes, on the building , on > the fence and in WLAN and PAN

[Tagging] Telephone poles and lines?

2019-05-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I recently checked the wiki and taginfo, and was surprised that there does not seem to be a preferred way to tag telephone poles, in contrast to power poles and lampposts. Options in use are: 1) man_made=utility_pole - used 4 930, has a short wiki description: "A single pole supporting elevation o

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - changing table - self referencing description

2019-05-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am So., 26. Mai 2019 um 02:08 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > Could become "Provides for replacing the nappy/diaper of very young > children." I am not a native speaker, to me this sentence looks as if a subject was missing? Cheers, Martin _

Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in

2019-05-26 Thread bkil
By the way, don't get me wrong, it is a perfectly valid desire to tag these. $SUBJECT has occurred to me as well in the past. In such cases, I looked for the full address, other text on mailboxes, on the building itself, on the fence and in WLAN and PAN in the air and tried to research these on the

Re: [Tagging] building=bank

2019-05-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
there is also global distribution: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=bank#map ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] building=bank

2019-05-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am So., 26. Mai 2019 um 10:58 Uhr schrieb Gerd Petermann < gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com>: > Hi! > I see nearly 1500 ways in OSM with the tag building=bank. Most of them are > also tagged amenity=bank > or have a node with amenity=bank inside. > The wiki doesn't mention building=bank, and the va

[Tagging] building=bank

2019-05-26 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi! I see nearly 1500 ways in OSM with the tag building=bank. Most of them are also tagged amenity=bank or have a node with amenity=bank inside. The wiki doesn't mention building=bank, and the validator in JOSM assumes a typo and complains "Unknown property value - Value 'bank' for key 'building'