Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

To be clear, it is not my proposal and I cannot even ride a motorcycle. The mapper making the wholesale changes, ti-lo/Rtfm, should submit a proposal, period, since it appears the issue involves wholesale change of existing tags, not introduction of new tags. It may not be a "requirement" but it

Re: [Tagging] amenity=taxi vehicle type

In Alaska, which is largely roadless, there are countless air-taxis and many water-taxis. On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 7:45 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > On 5. Jan 2019, at 01:58, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > Alternately, we could use amenity=motorcycle_taxi and amenity=p

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

I have been contacted at least twice by user:ti-lo about changing the tagging of several motorcycle shops I've added over the years. He is a bit of an evangelist for the new scheme yet has always been polite while asking to change my tags. Recently, I checked to see if the tags were documented in t

Re: [Tagging] amenity=taxi vehicle type

sent from a phone > On 5. Jan 2019, at 01:58, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > Alternately, we could use amenity=motorcycle_taxi and amenity=pedicab(? is > this the British terminology?) there are also water taxis (with boats), Venice comes to mind, but there are also others. https://en.m.wi

Re: [Tagging] amenity=taxi vehicle type

On 06/01/19 10:25, Tom Pfeifer wrote: On 05.01.2019 23:55, Warin wrote: But 'type' does not say much. Better to specify what type of 'type' is to be used :) In this case it is the type of vehicle.. so taxi_vehicle= car/motorcycle/rickshaw/* ? Thanks, I consider that the best idea so far!

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

On 06/01/19 09:29, Richard wrote: On Sat, Jan 05, 2019 at 08:52:58PM +, Paul Allen wrote: noticed that there is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disabilities This could be improved to add more details but I wonder if it would not become too big? It looks overloaded already now. Agreed

Re: [Tagging] amenity=taxi vehicle type

On 05.01.2019 23:55, Warin wrote: But 'type' does not say much. Better to specify what type of 'type' is to be used :) In this case it is the type of vehicle.. so taxi_vehicle= car/motorcycle/rickshaw/* ? Thanks, I consider that the best idea so far! On 05.01.2019 16:13, Dolly Andriatsifera

Re: [Tagging] amenity=taxi vehicle type

On 05/01/19 21:27, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 05.01.19 02:19, Warin wrote: On 05/01/19 10:34, Tom Pfeifer wrote: taxi_type = car|motorcycle|rickshaw, etc, What does 'type' add to the above? The key taxi=* is already in use to tag access permission for taxi vehicles, with values such as yes|no|de

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

On 06/01/19 06:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 5. Jan 2019, at 08:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Not mandatory in OSM ... "Any tags you like". you can use any tags you like in your mapping, but that doesn’t imply “changing” tags. It is one thing adding motorcy

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

On 06/01/19 04:07, Paul Allen wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 16:33, Hufkratzer > wrote: Oh, this was new to me; I thought the rule "Any tags you like" only applies to adding additional tags in the database and not to changing old tags or to rewrite the docu

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

On Sat, Jan 05, 2019 at 08:52:58PM +, Paul Allen wrote: noticed that there is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disabilities This could be improved to add more details but I wonder if it would not become too big? It looks overloaded already now. Richard _

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

For understanding of the Florida physical geography - Cape Canaveral is located here https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4887735121 USGS topos identify another cape - unmapped in OSM - slightly northwest called the 'False Cape' (somewhat generic term for capes that are likely mistaken for the

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

On Sat, Jan 05, 2019 at 08:52:58PM +, Paul Allen wrote: > You should bear in mind that requiring a wheelchair is just ONE form of > disability that merits the > use of special parking or other facilities. Which is why many people would > search for "disabled" > rather than "wheelchair." And

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Saturday 05 January 2019, Markus wrote: > > I'm aware of this. I just wanted to be be sure that i don't introduce > a tag that overlaps with the definition of another OSM tag – in this > case natural=cape. But as natural=cape has almost exclusively been > used for costal extreme points, there do

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

Am 05.01.2019 um 20:57 schrieb Peter Elderson: I can see your argument. First question: what's the harm in combining highway=trailhead and tourism=information? Note: I'm not asking this defensively or to advocate it, just want to understand where the problem lies. First of all I think this m

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 20:42, Richard wrote: > > because "disabled" was not mentioned very prominently in key:wheelchair > before > I edited it. Even though I knew "disabled" it is just one of the many > things > to try to search for and it simply didn't cross my mind. Btw for a computer > scienti

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

On Sat, Jan 05, 2019 at 01:51:51PM +0100, Georg Feddern wrote: > Am 04.01.2019 um 23:22 schrieb Warin: > >Possibly there needs to be a main wiki page for 'disabled' features > >tagging, toilets, tactile paving, parking, access. > > > >On 05/01/19 07:58, Paul Allen wrote: > >>On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 2

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

W dniu 05.01.2019 o 13:06, Christoph Hormann pisze: > natural=cape means what it is used for in OSM > and this - at least until > > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3452 > > had nothing even remotely to do with peninsulas. This meaning is > described on the wiki (and indee

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

I can see your argument. First question: what's the harm in combining highway=trailhead and tourism=information? Note: I'm not asking this defensively or to advocate it, just want to understand where the problem lies. Second: Separating these two keys is no problem in the Dutch situation. We chos

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

sent from a phone > On 5. Jan 2019, at 08:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Not mandatory in OSM ... "Any tags you like". you can use any tags you like in your mapping, but that doesn’t imply “changing” tags. It is one thing adding motorcycle:* tags, and another removing “old sty

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 16:33, Hufkratzer wrote: > Oh, this was new to me; I thought the rule "Any tags you like" only > applies to adding additional tags in the database and not to changing > old tags or to rewrite the documentation. I will keep that in mind. > Yeah, I thought that too. And it's

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

Oh, this was new to me; I thought the rule "Any tags you like" only applies to adding additional tags in the database and not to changing old tags or to rewrite the documentation. I will keep that in mind. On 5.1.2019 08:25, Warin wrote: On 05/01/19 12:57, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Yes, should

Re: [Tagging] Values in namespaces/prefixes/suffixes Considered Harmful - Or: Stop over-namespacing and prefix-fooling

On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 at 02:05, Stefan Keller wrote: > > It's really turning processing of key-values (or key-value pairs KVP, > entity-attribute-values EAV, dictionnaries, associative arrays, map > collections, Hash stores/hstores) ad absurdum. In addition to the > troubles of over-namespacing ment

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – crossing:island=*

On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 at 16:20, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I really like this solution, it removes one of > conflicts in crossing tagging. Thanks for your support! Are there any other comments? Otherwise i'll open voting soon. Regards, Markus ___ Tag

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

https://www.google.nl/maps/@51.4398109,5.860274,3a,50.1y,252.66h,85.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smxyMZsRagjIZ1-b_02F3fA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=nl&authuser=0 Shows Natuurpoort De Peel. You see the brown oversized key which landmarks the Natuurpoort series. You see an information board, with routing poles

Re: [Tagging] amenity=taxi vehicle type

> > In a way they are all related, just like buses, streetcars and subways are > all forms of urban public transit, but I think most people do not expect a > motorcycle when they look for a “taxi”? > +1 I wouldn't be comfortable to tag a station for rickshaws as amenity=taxi. And then it renders on

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

Haha, of course you can find some questionnable examples! The forst is a very new TOP, they put it in place before the expected route changes. There are some local routes and horse trails, which are not recorded in OSM, and it's part of the cycling node network. Cycling routre LF9 is there. And ac

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

Am 04.01.2019 um 23:22 schrieb Warin: Possibly there needs to be a main wiki page for 'disabled' features tagging, toilets, tactile paving, parking, access. On 05/01/19 07:58, Paul Allen wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 20:44, Richard > wrote: looking through the w

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 13:08, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > To make this clear once again since this continues to be forgotten: The > meaning of tags in OSM does not necessarily have anything to do with > the culture specific definition of the terms used for key and value > from some dictionary. I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Saturday 05 January 2019, Markus wrote: > > I originally included the requirement for an isthmus in order to have > a clear differentiation from capes, as the broader definition of > peninsulas without the requirement for an isthmus overlaps with the > (broader) definition of capes, see e.g. Mer

Re: [Tagging] Trail register

Am 05.01.2019 um 08:24 schrieb Warin: On 05/01/19 14:02, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 07:23, Jmapb > wrote: On 1/4/2019 4:10 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Has anyone here tagged anything similar to the case I have in mind of, > "you must si

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

Am 03.01.2019 um 00:57 schrieb Peter Elderson: Thanks for the comments. Please understand that the mentioned proposal is not my proposal. You were referring to it and in my opinion you tried to tweak it a bit too much for your purposes. But let's continue this on the other sub-thread. :-)

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

Thank you all for your feedback and please excuse my late reply. On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 at 22:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > I have concerns about the definition of peninsula that you've used "a piece > of land nearly surrounded by water and connected to a larger land area by an > isthmus, that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 at 01:44, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I’d suggest encouraging mappers to use a node in the center of a large peninsula, as is done for continents and seas, rather than trying to map it as an area. I've already added this comment in section Tagging: 'If it is unclear where the pe

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

Am 04.01.2019 um 18:18 schrieb Peter Elderson: Let's agree to agree! Op vr 4 jan. 2019 om 16:52 schreef Kevin Kenny mailto:kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com>>: On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 8:30 AM Peter Elderson mailto:pelder...@gmail.com>> wrote: > I'm trying to go for the minimal tagging that suppo

Re: [Tagging] amenity=taxi vehicle type

On 05.01.19 02:19, Warin wrote: > On 05/01/19 10:34, Tom Pfeifer wrote: >> taxi_type = car|motorcycle|rickshaw, etc, > > What does 'type' add to the above? The key taxi=* is already in use to tag access permission for taxi vehicles, with values such as yes|no|designated|destination|permissive. S

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

Hello, The french community has started months ago creating this page in order to list tags around disabilities, and how to practically map associated features (and referencing "concurrent" tags when multiple schemes exists) : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Handicaps/R%C3%A9f%C3%A9ren