Re: [Tagging] Kerbs

2018-01-07 Thread Nick Bolten
> Even if only three out of four wheelchair users were satisfied with `mountable`, `semi-mountable` and `non-mountable` this would be a step forward, in my opinion. I would wager that the fraction of wheelchair users covered would be a minority - there's a lot of diversity that tends to get lumped

Re: [Tagging] Kerbs

2018-01-07 Thread Matej Lieskovský
I'd say the first picture is a flush kerb followed by a ramp. On 7 January 2018 at 20:12, Selfish Seahorse wrote: > Not, it's not ideal, you are right. It's just an idea to create some > order, because the current kerb scheme isn't ideal either. Even if > only three out of four wheelchair users

Re: [Tagging] Kerbs

2018-01-07 Thread Selfish Seahorse
Not, it's not ideal, you are right. It's just an idea to create some order, because the current kerb scheme isn't ideal either. Even if only three out of four wheelchair users were satisfied with `mountable`, `semi-mountable` and `non-mountable` this would be a step forward, in my opinion. Besides,

Re: [Tagging] Kerbs

2018-01-07 Thread Nick Bolten
I like the idea of explicitly indicating the presence of a ramp, as they're specialized infrastructure that isn't exactly the same as just having a sloped curb interface. Though I would argue that it makes sense for them to be a linear feature separate from the `kerb` key, as they have non-trivial

Re: [Tagging] Kerbs

2018-01-07 Thread Nick Bolten
If the road and sidewalk have no curb interface, then `kerb=flush` seems appropriate. On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 1:15 PM Matej Lieskovský wrote: > How does this work with roads raised to the level of the sidewalk? > > On 31 Dec 2017 19:43, "Selfish Seahorse" > wrote: > > On 29 December 2017 at 00:

Re: [Tagging] Kerbs

2018-01-07 Thread Nick Bolten
> * `mountable`: mountable for wheelchairs and vehicles (...) While this may seem easier to tag on a first pass, it's not ideal, as it's making a broad-brush executive decision about accessibility on behalf of others. I'm also not sure how it's different from wheelchair=yes/no combined with access

Re: [Tagging] Kerbs

2018-01-07 Thread Selfish Seahorse
On 29 December 2017 at 01:41, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > kerb:shape=* would be better as it suggests what is to be tagged. Thus, `kerb=*` values could be replaced with: * `mountable`: mountable for wheelchairs and vehicles * `semi-mountable`: not mountable for wheelchairs but mountabl

Re: [Tagging] cycleway:both=no in StreetComplete

2018-01-07 Thread Fernando Trebien
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Matej Lieskovský wrote: > I have no idea where you map, but here, >90% of roads never even heard about > cycleways. For us here, it makes sense to consider cycleway=no to be > implicit, as the information that someone surveyed it is not worth the extra > tags. Your

Re: [Tagging] Atmospheric railways: the aeromovel of Jarkarta and Porto Alegre

2018-01-07 Thread Fernando Trebien
Since these systems are so rare, perhaps it would be interesting to map using existing railway=* values adding electrified=no and a new tag such as atmospheric=yes. On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 7:09 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 5. Jan 2018, at 01:51, Fernando Trebien

Re: [Tagging] Subway vs light rail

2018-01-07 Thread Fernando Trebien
Pardon me if I expressed myself poorly. This mapper changed both the route=* tag of the relation and the railway=* tag of all its members from light_rail to subway. On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 8:26 AM, Michael Reichert wrote: > Hi Fernando, > > Am 2018-01-04 um 13:32 schrieb Fernando Trebien: >> A Ger

Re: [Tagging] Subway vs light rail

2018-01-07 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Fernando, Am 2018-01-04 um 13:32 schrieb Fernando Trebien: > A German mapper just changed the rail type of a line [1] in my area > (southern Brazil) from light_rail to subway. > > Here those trains run on the surface (contrary to most subways) and > have no at-grade intersections with other tr