> Am 24.04.2015 um 01:46 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
>
> Extinguishers are placed by the requirements of possible fires in that
> location. So if you find one local to the fire it should be suitable for use
> there. Thus added tagging should serve little to no purpose.
yes, it i
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> yes, but also there it is not the same. Around here, vaping is allowed and
> at least tolerated if not accepted socially indoors, eg in a restaurant.
> Medically, you don't inhale smoke, so there are big dif
> Am 24.04.2015 um 02:51 schrieb John Willis :
>
> An i-phone is still considered a phone.
-1, a Mercedes is still considered a car.
And now?
Smoking is about inhaling smoke, a telephone is about speaking remotely and a
car is a means of transport.
cheers
Martin
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> Am 24.04.2015 um 00:01 schrieb moltonel 3x Combo :
>
> It's the social/medical definition that matters
> here
yes, but also there it is not the same. Around here, vaping is allowed and at
least tolerated if not accepted socially indoors, eg in a restaurant.
Medically, you don't inhale sm
The ones in Japan ( I have seen) are chains. Some routes are easily passible
without chains, some are beyond vertical in spots with the chain to climb. And
grandpas were climbing them with a pair of gloves.
occasionally there were big anchor rings used as handholds.
For the easier and crowded
Dave,
I wasn't intending to have another try at camp_type=*.
We'll leave on our next trip in less than two weeks from now, so I don't
have the time. I also will be not able to complete another voting cycle
until I'll be without decent internet again.
Furthermore I haven't seen better proposals la
On 24.04.2015 05:02, Warin wrote:
> "The essence of a modern via ferrata is a steel cable which runs along
> the route and is periodically (every 3 to 10 metres (9.8 to 32.8 ft))
> fixed to the rock."
So you certainly agree that this is safer than an unsecured path.
Nevertheless, a ferrata cannot
On 24/04/2015 12:27 PM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:
On 24.04.2015 02:16, Warin wrote:
Via ferrata should not be lumped into path or footway .. they are very
significantly different and cannot be used in place of a path or footway.
Would you take a 3 year old along it?
Did you read the discussion
On 23.04.2015 11:59, Richard Z. wrote:
> there were ongoing discussions concerning this subject so
> I have ammended the wiki:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/via_ferrata#Criteria_for_taging_as_either_via_ferrata_or_path
> "use highway=via_ferrata where people commonly us
On 24.04.2015 02:16, Warin wrote:
> Via ferrata should not be lumped into path or footway .. they are very
> significantly different and cannot be used in place of a path or footway.
> Would you take a 3 year old along it?
Did you read the discussion tab? Farratas are not more difficult nor more
d
Editorials ...
The table of "Describing the Connection Style" ?
I'd remove 'Style' ...
And then for the table titles
key:value Video Description
And I'd rather that the description (text) came before the video?
The example for a 'standalone boating' has amenity=sanitary_dump_station
too.
Seems great !
Javbw
> On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:52 AM, David Bannon wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> On Fri, 2015-04-24 at 06:47 +0900, John Willis wrote:
>>
>> I don't want people to map known illegal camp sites or places they just
>> happened to spend the night and think are nice but are on a farmers pri
> On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> they look at the colour.
I agree that the letter codes wouldn't be used when looking for an
extinguisher, but it is used for managing them. The color codes are not
universal either.
Also, here in Japan there are hello kit
Jan, are you going to have another try at camp_type= ?
I think the term "non-designated" was a contributor to it struggling.
Trouble is, the idea you have here is an important one but one its quite
hard to get your head around.
David
On Thu, 2015-04-23 at 05:05 +, Jan van Bekkum wrote:
>
On Fri, 2015-04-24 at 06:47 +0900, John Willis wrote:
> I don't want people to map known illegal camp sites or places they just
> happened to spend the night and think are nice but are on a farmers private
> property just to complete the map, as "map the ground truth" means mapping
> basic+
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> On Apr 24, 2015, at 7:01 AM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
>
> to me using
> e-cigarettes *is* smoking.
+1
An i-phone is still considered a phone.
The rules governing e-cigs will stem from smoking in most places.
I'm not going to include BBQs in smoking rules because it
Bryce, I was away and inattentive while this discussion went on, so
don't understand !
* amenity=sanitary_dump_station - Standalone facility for marine users
* waterway=sanitary_dump_station - Standalone facility for land users
Seem to be wrong way around to me ! Why is "waterway" used for lan
User Xxzme wanted the recent "dump station" wiki pages reorganized.
Anyone willing to proofread? No tagging changes were intended:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Toilet_Holding_Tank_Disposal
Unfortunately this messes with the recently translated Russian French and
German
versions of the page
Some minor things ..
overhang ? Should not 'covered' be used?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:covered
Even more trivial ... Oneway .. should include the information that it is on
the direction of the way ... -1 for reverse direction.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway
==
While fire extinguishers have various codes ...
Extinguishers are placed by the requirements of possible fires in that
location. So if you find one local to the fire it should be suitable for
use there. Thus added tagging should serve little to no purpose.
Sorry to be so practical but people
On 23/04/2015, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> you're suggesting "smoking" as a single namespace, which doesn't apply to
> vaporizers. Maybe "inhaling"?
> On the other hand, smoking is also forbidden when not inhaling... ;-)
> I think different namespaces make sense here, because they are different
>
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:40 PM, David Bannon wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2015-04-23 at 15:16 +0900, johnw wrote:
>>
>> That’s why I thought " informal yet legal spots" would be good wording
>> to cover this, and maybe link over to the camp_type proposal here -
>> because with the w
The fire type is most important, but depending on the material used, it can be
used on several types -
So +1 for tagging the material first and foremost.
Most common household extinguishers in the US are dry powder ABC extinguishers.
At the bottom of the #united states section is a conversion
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Craig Wallace
wrote:
>
> In the UK, the class is not printed huge letters. They main thing they are
> labelled with is the contents of the extinguisher, with a coloured stripe.
> ie red for water, blue for powder, black for CO2.
>
Then tag whatever's visible if t
On 2015-04-23 18:01, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 5:31 AM, mailto:p...@trigpoint.me.uk>> wrote:
That makes much more sense, and as you say, maps the physical
characteristics.
The letters seem like specialist knowledge that few people will be
aware of.
Phil (t
> Am 23.04.2015 um 19:01 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt :
>
> Putting the translation into OSM will help exactly zero people use the right
> extinguisher in a real fire.
why? There won't be a letter on the fire, so you would anyway have to make an
adaptation to your situation.
The tags won't neces
The most common physical signage in the USA gives just a number range:
It would be nice to have a clutter free way to tag those, in part because
they could be collected
in bulk by drive cameras and OCR.
It's less information than an interpolation line, but still very very
useful. Many printed
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 5:31 AM, wrote:
> That makes much more sense, and as you say, maps the physical
> characteristics.
> The letters seem like specialist knowledge that few people will be aware
> of.
> Phil (trigpoint )
But the letter codes are exactly what's printed in huge letters right
2015-04-23 0:24 GMT+02:00 moltonel 3x Combo :
> Your scheme uses exactly as many keys as mine for
> a given usecase. The only difference is that I put everything under a
> single namespace, which makes it tidyer and more discoverable.
>
you're suggesting "smoking" as a single namespace, which do
That makes much more sense, and as you say, maps the physical characteristics.
The letters seem like specialist knowledge that few people will be aware of.
Phil (trigpoint )
On Thu Apr 23 13:11:46 2015 GMT+0100, Florian LAINEZ wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback.
> I am not expert at all on the
Am 23.04.2015 um 06:34 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:13 PM, John F. Eldredge
> wrote:
>
>> Would you need to split the road into two ways, one for the left side and
>> one for the right side, even if the roadway is not actually divided? This
>> would cause a mismatch between
Thanks for the feedback.
I am not expert at all on the topic therefore I am open to describe with
literal description.
I just double checked in my office (in France) and couldn't find easily any
"literal" mention. One the other way the class A and B were clearly
mentioned.
Therefore I think we will
Good point David. Alaska has that same situation. One can camp pretty much
anywhere on public lands. With the exception of parks and native holdings,
Alaska is primarily public land.
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:40 AM, David Bannon
wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-04-23 at 15:16 +0900, johnw wrote:
>
> > That
On Thu, 2015-04-23 at 15:16 +0900, johnw wrote:
> That’s why I thought " informal yet legal spots" would be good wording
> to cover this, and maybe link over to the camp_type proposal here -
> because with the wording for basic, the first thing I thought about
> was the legality or designation of
Hi,
there were ongoing discussions concerning this subject so
I have ammended the wiki:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/via_ferrata#Criteria_for_taging_as_either_via_ferrata_or_path
Richard
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On Thu Apr 23 10:38:13 2015 GMT+0100, Florian LAINEZ wrote:
> Hi, it's the first time I write to this mailing list, I am a french
> contributor interested in train stations.
>
> I want to describe more precisely an extinguisher and I have seen the tag
> emergency=fire_extinguisher that is used de
2015-04-23 11:38 GMT+02:00 Florian LAINEZ :
> What about adding some details regarding the type with fire_extinguisher=A
> for an extinguisher class A?
>
The classification system seems to vary between different regions, see here
for a comparison table:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_extingui
Hi, it's the first time I write to this mailing list, I am a french
contributor interested in train stations.
I want to describe more precisely an extinguisher and I have seen the tag
emergency=fire_extinguisher that is used de facto.
What about adding some details regarding the type with fire_ext
On Thursday 23 April 2015, Malcolm Herring wrote:
> This idea of the linear river way being along the deepest part seems
> to have been created in this thread. No such 'rule' exists, either in
> practice, nor in Wiki tagging pages.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Driverbank#Old
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