Re: [Tagging] RFC: Door Values

On 10.06.2014 21:51, Michael Maier wrote: > There was the key 'door', but with very little documentation. > > So I created a Proposal Page for the values of the 'door' key: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/door Thanks for starting the proposal, having a tag for this would b

Re: [Tagging] RFC: Door Values

Sorry, forgot the link Am 10.06.2014 22:34, schrieb fly: > Am 10.06.2014 21:51, schrieb Michael Maier: > > Hi Michael > >> I'm working with people with walking disabilities. We found it to be >> useful to map the door type of an entrance. >> >> There was the key 'door', but with very little docu

Re: [Tagging] RFC: Door Values

Am 10.06.2014 21:51, schrieb Michael Maier: Hi Michael > I'm working with people with walking disabilities. We found it to be > useful to map the door type of an entrance. > > There was the key 'door', but with very little documentation. There is a proposal [1] which was not accepted some years

[Tagging] RFC: Door Values

Hello list, I'm working with people with walking disabilities. We found it to be useful to map the door type of an entrance. There was the key 'door', but with very little documentation. So I created a Proposal Page for the values of the 'door' key: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_f

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

On 10 June 2014 12:51, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Maybe we could use a broader term that includes ATMs, like financial_kiosk > or money_kiosk. I'm not saying we should deprecate amenity=atm, I'm saying > amenity=financial_kiosk could be an umbrella term. > To me those terms are too similar for it to

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

On 06/10/2014 01:28 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: The *bitcoin* device is a *currency exchange terminal.* It's not an ATM at 99% of the world understands that term. An ATM is a device for interacting with a pre-established deposit account, perhaps though an interbank network. These are different func

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-10 19:28 GMT+02:00 Bryce Nesbitt : > > The *bitcoin* device is a *currency exchange terminal.* > Classic ATMs are also currency exchange terminals. If you have a bank account in one currency, and you dispense cash in a country with other currency, it exchanges them at some rate depending

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:30 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > 2014-06-09 13:58 GMT+02:00 Henning Scholland : > >> AFAIK most Bitcoin ATMs right now take "real" money and convert it to >> Bitcoins. Some can take Bitcoins and convert them to real money and give it >> to you. So I'm not sure why this would

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-10 14:40 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > I don't think we should broaden the term and retag all atms we already > collected with then 2 instead of 1 tag, instead we should invent new tags > for stuff that is new. > Then we agree, because I said practically the same thing :) Use amenit

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

I agree, introducing weird term instead of something obvious and widely used is bad idea. Especially doing this to keep happy small group of inexperienced editors. On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 05:40:01 -0700 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote 2014-06-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Jank

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

Am 10.06.2014 12:35, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: > Bitcoin mappers have been doing everything from copying other maps > outright (violating copyright), to geocoding against Google and then > placing that in OSM (violating copyright) to geocoding against > nominatim and then using that (really bad qua

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-10 12:35 GMT+02:00 Serge Wroclawski : > > 2. The bitcoin community has generally been skirting the rules > > Bitcoin mappers have been doing everything from copying other maps > outright (violating copyright), to geocoding against Google and then > placing that in OSM (violating copyright)

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Janko Mihelić : > Maybe we could use a broader term that includes ATMs, like financial_kiosk > or money_kiosk. I'm not saying we should deprecate amenity=atm, I'm saying > amenity=financial_kiosk could be an umbrella term. > > "amenity=financial_kiosk + cash_out:EUR=yes"

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

Maybe we could use a broader term that includes ATMs, like financial_kiosk or money_kiosk. I'm not saying we should deprecate amenity=atm, I'm saying amenity=financial_kiosk could be an umbrella term. "amenity=financial_kiosk + cash_out:EUR=yes" would be a classical ATM that dispenses Euros. Secon

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > What if it gave you paper money for Bitcoins? Would it be an ATM then? What > if there's a shop that only works with bitcoins? Is it a shop? > > An ATM isn't a machine that gives you paper money, the term is broader than > that. These seman

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-10 11:44 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Liotier : > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_Teller_Machine) > > So an ATM that manages Bitcoin transactions is most definitely amenity=atm. > wikipedia is not the Bible nor the Coran, it is obvious that there are some flaws in this article, the firs

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

On 09/06/2014 22:12, nounours77 wrote: Go out and ask hundred people on the street what a ATM is - and everybody will answer you the same thing. [..] ATM = Automatic Teller Machine... "An electronic telecommunications device that enables the customers of a financial institution to perform fin

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-10 11:36 GMT+02:00 Janko Mihelić : > > Well, it does give you money. Just not paper money. > thing is, it doesn't give you cash. What kind of "cash machine" is this, that doesn't give you cash? > > What if it gave you paper money for Bitcoins? Would it be an ATM then? > IMHO yes.

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

2014-06-09 22:12 GMT+02:00 nounours77 : > > Should we tag flat areas as "natural=peak" "ele=0" and then tell the > renderer not to render it as a mountain? > No, because that's not a peak. > Should we tag deserts as "water=lake" and "type=dry" to tell the renderer > to render it yellow instead