Re: [Tagging] admin_boundary with multiple levels / county free citys / Kreisfreie Staedte

2013-11-05 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Duplicating the relation seems easiest and is what I'd probably do, > but of course it is not 100% correct as there aren't two different > admin boundaries (or, in the case of Hamburg, and Berlin, three - here > admin_levels 4,6,8 are folded

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gambling

2013-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 05.11.2013 um 22:14 schrieb Matthijs Melissen : > And what > is the opinion of other users about moving casino into the leisure tag > space? I don't see any advantage. Leisure so far was used mostly for sport related places, parks, nature reserves and playgrounds, generally casinos and eve

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gambling

2013-11-05 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 3 November 2013 22:14, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:58 PM, fly wrote: >> I wonder if we should not use leisure in general and try to avoid >> amenity. At least for new tags and tags with low numbers leisure=* >> should be used. > amenity=casino is the most used tag

Re: [Tagging] admin_boundary with multiple levels / county free citys / Kreisfreie Staedte

2013-11-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 05.11.2013 16:22, Florian Lohoff wrote: > A fix would be an admin_level=6;8 on the boundary or duplicating > the relation. Duplicating the relation seems easiest and is what I'd probably do, but of course it is not 100% correct as there aren'

Re: [Tagging] admin_boundary with multiple levels / county free citys / Kreisfreie Staedte

2013-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/5 Pieren > I'm surprised you still have such questions in Germany. Your > description is not clear since you don't explain what is on the way > and what is on the relation. > it shouldn't matter. Mostly you don't need a relation at all (if not to reduce redundancy by overlapping ways),

Re: [Tagging] admin_boundary with multiple levels / county free citys / Kreisfreie Staedte

2013-11-05 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 04:55:42PM +0100, Pieren wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > A fix would be an admin_level=6;8 on the boundary or duplicating > > the relation. > > I'm surprised you still have such questions in Germany. Your > description is not clear sin

Re: [Tagging] admin_boundary with multiple levels / county free citys / Kreisfreie Staedte

2013-11-05 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 06:18:44PM +0100, Colin Smale wrote: > In the UK we do the opposite. In "Unitary Authorities", which combine > the role of the "county" with the "district" (sounds like the same as > the Kreisfreie Staedte) we tag the UA as admin_level=6, i.e. at the same > level as co

Re: [Tagging] admin_boundary with multiple levels / county free citys / Kreisfreie Staedte

2013-11-05 Thread Colin Smale
In the UK we do the opposite. In "Unitary Authorities", which combine the role of the "county" with the "district" (sounds like the same as the Kreisfreie Staedte) we tag the UA as admin_level=6, i.e. at the same level as counties, and not admin_level=8 which is the level for the "districts".

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Balázs Barcsik
>"But, as already said, the oneway restriction applies to the whole way, >for all vehicles arriving there, even from private properties. Where >stops or giveway are just prioritizing the access to an intersection." -because one of the way has priority in the intersection among the others. As you mi

Re: [Tagging] admin_boundary with multiple levels / county free citys / Kreisfreie Staedte

2013-11-05 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Florian Lohoff wrote: > A fix would be an admin_level=6;8 on the boundary or duplicating > the relation. I'm surprised you still have such questions in Germany. Your description is not clear since you don't explain what is on the way and what is on the relation. B

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Balázs Barcsik
"please GPS, tell me the traffic signs I'm just seeing now with my eyes". That is the point! because if you need to figure out how has a priority, or where you can turn - then you often dont find any sign at your way. A no entry sign for example. or if you can not see a priority road sign it does

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Philip Barnes
And in the UK, I have only come across priority diamonds in mainland Europe. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 05/11/2013 15:20 Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Balázs Barcsik wrote: So I would prefer to create such tags for priority cases - which can be ass

[Tagging] admin_boundary with multiple levels / county free citys / Kreisfreie Staedte

2013-11-05 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, in Germany we have the concept of countys and citys within those countys. E.g. admin_level=8 within admin_level=6. Now as an exception every rule follows bigger citys are their own countys, or dont belong to a county. (Kreisfreie Städte) Administrative wise these citys take all administrati

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Balázs Barcsik wrote: > So I would prefer to create such tags for priority cases - which can be > assigned to ways This breaks down in North America, which lacks this concept. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetm

Re: [Tagging] tag proposal for soft play centres

2013-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/5 Erik Johansson > I think it's not such a good idea to use leisure=playground + fee=yes, > since it most certainly is not a playground, but sure playgrounds > really do span a very big range from a sandbox to extremely large > contraptions . > +1, I think his current proposal leisure=i

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Balázs Barcsik wrote: > Do you think that routing/navigation apps are using turn restrictions tags > instead of oneway tag to create the route? > I dont think so... Back to your original post, you want to introduce alerts into navigation tools. But you seem to have

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Philip Barnes
There are lots of cases where routing software uses turn restrictions, it would be next to useless if it relied on oneways alone. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 05/11/2013 13:09 Balázs Barcsik wrote: Do you think that routing/navigation apps are using turn restrictions tags in

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Tue, 5 Nov 2013, Balázs Barcsik wrote: > Do you think that routing/navigation apps are using turn restrictions tags > instead of oneway tag to create the route?I dont think so... It's still wrong even if everyone would be doing it. :-) And btw, I was only saying that in order to get it right,

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Balázs Barcsik
Do you think that routing/navigation apps are using turn restrictions tags instead of oneway tag to create the route? I dont think so... On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > On Tue, 5 Nov 2013, Balázs Barcsik wrote: > > > Think about oneway > > tag.http://wiki.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Ilpo Järvinen
On Tue, 5 Nov 2013, Balázs Barcsik wrote: > Think about oneway > tag.http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing > That is a property of a way. > So as a routing app I just would like to examine this tag, and forget the > relations restrictions: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rel

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Balázs Barcsik
Think about oneway tag. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing That is a property of a way. So as a routing app I just would like to examine this tag, and forget the relations restrictions: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:restriction Because it is a redundancy - if the

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Steve Doerr
My understanding is that a give_way node on a way should be placed such that it is closer to the relevant intersection than it is to any other intersection of that way. Thus, as long as you can work out (from this proximity) which intersection it relates to, you have all the information you nee

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Pieren
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Balázs Barcsik > 1. extend highway=give_way (and stop) to able to use on ways > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dgive_way And how to interpret the tag if the way is between two intersections ? Surely not a good solution. > 2. define a new tag:

Re: [Tagging] tag proposal for soft play centres

2013-11-05 Thread Erik Johansson
It has occured to me that this seems to be more of something simliar to tourism=theme_park, yet smaller. I don't know if there is such a tag that is widespread or if it's better to use your own tag. I think it's not such a good idea to use leisure=playground + fee=yes, since it most certainly is

Re: [Tagging] give way and stop tag for ways

2013-11-05 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: > I personally find the traffic_signal:direction tag to be clunky, but it is > in the wiki for traffic signals where many/most mappers will find it. And > traffic signals are a member of the same class as stop and yield signs in > my mind: Things t

Re: [Tagging] Proposal - RFC - man_made=lamp

2013-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 05/nov/2013 um 08:32 schrieb Manuel Hohmann > : > > Yes, indeed I was thinking about this (or rather light_fitting, which > should be UK English), which would be the correct technical term. I > finally used lamp for the following reasons: If I see this right, lamp technically seems to re