Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - TMC - New tagging scheme for TMC

2012-04-29 Thread Eckhart Wörner
Am Sonntag, 29. April 2012, 17:08:05 schrieb Eckhart Wörner: > based on the changes I believe are important I added a modified proposal to > the wiki: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE_talk:Proposed_features/New_TMC_scheme#Neues_Proposal > > Changes: > * Versions are an (optional) part of t

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Apr 29, 2012 10:44 AM, "Martin Koppenhoefer" wrote: > > 2012/4/29 Kytömaa Lauri : > >>police doesn't enforce the official rules, then there are factually > >>more lanes on the ground than painted on the road. > > > > Isn't that equal to cycling on sidewalks: we shouldn't tag > > sidewalks with

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/4/29 Kytömaa Lauri : >>police doesn't enforce the official rules, then there are factually >>more lanes on the ground than painted on the road. > > Isn't that equal to cycling on sidewalks: we shouldn't tag > sidewalks with bicycle=yes (in coutries where cyclists may > not use them), even if o

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - TMC - New tagging scheme for TMC

2012-04-29 Thread fly
On 29/04/12 18:57, Eckhart Wörner wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 29. April 2012, 18:49:39 schrieb fly: >> I have only one point left: >> What to do with more than on TMC route on one way. Do we still need >> relations >> for that ? > > no, we don't. My modified proposal skipped over that section (sinc

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - TMC - New tagging scheme for TMC

2012-04-29 Thread Eckhart Wörner
Hi Colliar, Am Sonntag, 29. April 2012, 18:49:39 schrieb fly: > I have only one point left: > What to do with more than on TMC route on one way. Do we still need relations > for that ? no, we don't. My modified proposal skipped over that section (since I changed nothing in it), but the original

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - TMC - New tagging scheme for TMC

2012-04-29 Thread fly
On 29/04/12 17:08, Eckhart Wörner wrote: Hi everybody + Eckhart > > based on the changes I believe are important I added a modified proposal to > the wiki: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE_talk:Proposed_features/New_TMC_scheme#Neues_Proposal > > Changes: > * Versions are an (optional) p

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-29 Thread Georg Feddern OSM
Martin Koppenhoefer hat am 29. April 2012 um 17:39 geschrieben: > 2012/4/29 Kytömaa Lauri : > > http://i46.tinypic.com/2cfqivn.png > > > > Which value would people use for the lanes=*? > > > I think I wouldn't tag any lanes explicitly here. Looks like a > residential road. I wouldn't expect many

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-29 Thread Kytömaa Lauri
>police doesn't enforce the official rules, then there are factually >more lanes on the ground than painted on the road. Isn't that equal to cycling on sidewalks: we shouldn't tag sidewalks with bicycle=yes (in coutries where cyclists may not use them), even if only a dozen or so get a fine each

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-29 Thread Kytömaa Lauri
>Looks as if 2 cars can pass each other without big problems. Only in the utopia where all drivers can confidently manouver their cars at speed to gaps only 10-20 cm wider than their car. Most people don't. The white car already has it's right hand wheels outside the normal driving surface. And

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/4/29 Kytömaa Lauri : > http://i46.tinypic.com/2cfqivn.png > > Which value would people use for the lanes=*? I think I wouldn't tag any lanes explicitly here. Looks like a residential road. I wouldn't expect many trucks in this zone, but if I were to map more detail I'd add a width-tag. Looks

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-29 Thread Kytömaa Lauri
>Before that I added a point in the Open issues section about lanes=1.5 >and modified the note at the end of the section Narrow road. As So, today I got a chance to revisit an unpaved residential road I've tagged as lanes=1.5 in the distant past. Here's two pictures of it (in one) Above, usual

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - TMC - New tagging scheme for TMC

2012-04-29 Thread Eckhart Wörner
Hi everybody, based on the changes I believe are important I added a modified proposal to the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE_talk:Proposed_features/New_TMC_scheme#Neues_Proposal Changes: * Versions are an (optional) part of the proposal. If they are not needed, they can be left out

Re: [Tagging] OSMI layers in JOSM

2012-04-29 Thread Phil! Gold
* Martin Vonwald [2012-04-25 10:28 +0200]: > I'm trying to view the OSMI layers in JOSM. The all-knowing, > all-seeing trash heap pointed me to this (german) article: > http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=9315 > > There it is recommended to use the following link in JOSM: > http://too

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-29 Thread Martin Vonwald
As no further issues were raised with the updated article I will replace the current lanes-article with my current version. Before that I added a point in the Open issues section about lanes=1.5 and modified the note at the end of the section Narrow road. As lanes=1.5 wasn't documented before and

Re: [Tagging] Dispute prevention: meaning of lanes tag

2012-04-29 Thread Martin Vonwald
Those examples are very good. Any chance we could get some license-compatible photos in the near future? 2012/4/21 Philip Barnes : > On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 10:19 +0200, Ronnie Soak wrote: > >> I would only use a lanes value other than 2 if there are clear road >> markings, signs or it is otherwise