Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Sander Deryckere
The tag (class:xxx=?) isn't helpful for standard transportation, but for recreative transportation. mot So class:vehicle would be of no use, but e.g. class:touring would be (e.g. for oldtimer touring, moto turiong ...) or class:4wd. A 4wd car falls under the same type in the access tags as the old

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Peter Svensson
This tag might be useful for subjective tagging for bikes: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Class:bicycle The idea is good, but how do we tag the same kind of information for other vehicles? Is there a class:motor_vehicle or class:vehicle? Peter -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: M∡rti

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/14 Nathan Edgars II : > It would be more useful to say why they should avoid, like maxheight=*. btw.: maxheight is a legal restriction as well. Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tag

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/14 Flaimo : > the wiki page doesn't say that the restriction need to be of a legal > kind. How else can you interpret: "Description For describing the legal accessibility of an element." ? > access=no could also mean that it is physically not accessible > even though it might be allowed

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread SomeoneElse
On 14/06/2011 11:19, Flaimo wrote: the wiki page doesn't say that the restriction need to be of a legal kind. The wiki page makes it abundantly clear that this is what "access" is for. It uses words such as "/legally-enshrined right of access" and "//dedicated to a specific mode of travel by

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 6/14/2011 6:19 AM, Flaimo wrote: the wiki page doesn't say that the restriction need to be of a legal kind. access=no could also mean that it is physically not accessible even though it might be allowed legally. Are there any common values that are neither legal nor physical? on the other h

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Flaimo
the wiki page doesn't say that the restriction need to be of a legal kind. access=no could also mean that it is physically not accessible even though it might be allowed legally. on the other hand, i don't see "avoid" as a value, but rather as some sort of additional information like "description".

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Richard Mann
That'll be a very big boat On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:57 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/6/14 Sander Deryckere : >> It's Paul Johnson who introduced the tag, not Nathan. >> >> Your comment is right, but you should point it to Paul Johnson instead. > > > yes, I saw this, he kept it, so they'

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 6/14/2011 5:57 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/6/14 Sander Deryckere: It's Paul Johnson who introduced the tag, not Nathan. Your comment is right, but you should point it to Paul Johnson instead. yes, I saw this, he kept it, so they're sitting in the same boat ;-) Due to previous co

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/14 Sander Deryckere : > It's Paul Johnson who introduced the tag, not Nathan. > > Your comment is right, but you should point it to Paul Johnson instead. yes, I saw this, he kept it, so they're sitting in the same boat ;-) Cheers, Martin ___ Ta

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Sander Deryckere
It's Paul Johnson who introduced the tag, not Nathan. Your comment is right, but you should point it to Paul Johnson instead. regards, Sander > you are actually missusing the access-tag because it is intended for > legal restrictions and not for recommendations. Why not use another > tag? Thei

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/14 Nathan Edgars II : > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/83524747/history > No comment. you are actually missusing the access-tag because it is intended for legal restrictions and not for recommendations. Why not use another tag? Their number is not limited... cheers, Martin _