Re: [Tagging] [OSM-dev] capitals; normalizing true, yes and 1

2011-02-05 Thread john
Adding to the confusion, many of the people in this current discussion seem to interpret "capital" as meaning the primary city of a region or country (without defining whether they mean largest population, leading cultural center, etc.), instead of the standard meaning of "capital", namely the a

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-dev] capitals; normalizing true, yes and 1

2011-02-05 Thread Pieren
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:02 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I agree with the quick and dirty hack part, > > Yes, you are enforcing a tag just because it's working with osm2pgsql where the better "admin_centre" role in the relation is not yet supported (I could understand for places without rela

Re: [Tagging] Open cut mining

2011-02-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:54:30 -0800 Daniel Sabo wrote: > My inclination on the mine facilities would be: The actual pit & > surroundings are landuse=quarry, the proccessing facilities are > landuse=industrial + individual buildings. Do the buildings have > names beyond their purpose? If not just na

Re: [Tagging] Open cut mining

2011-02-05 Thread Daniel Sabo
A site relation could be appropriate to describe that they are all related to the mine but don't fit inside of a single polygon. If the entire community (mine + housing + airport) is all part of the mine I would map it as place=hamlet, name=such and such mine. In that case draw the place polygo

Re: [Tagging] Open cut mining

2011-02-05 Thread Johan Jönsson
Elizabeth Dodd writes: > > > 2011/2/5 Elizabeth Dodd billiau.net>: > > > I'm tracing a big open cast mine ... > > the residential village and the airstrip are part of the mining site > from the social and economic points of view - single owner, single > purpose > the 132km of haul road also b

Re: [Tagging] "by_appointment"

2011-02-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 08:31:57 -0500 Richard Weait wrote: > We've not used any indication that an appointment is required for tags > like amenity=doctors. Can we just leave that be as it seems to have > been presumed opening_hours:by_appointment=yes On exactly this point, we have opening hours. Du

Re: [Tagging] Open cut mining

2011-02-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:04:36 +0100 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/2/5 Elizabeth Dodd : > > I'm tracing a big open cast mine which has > > > > pit; tailings dump; ore dump; processing plant to concentrate > > ore; water supply; container loading facility for concentrate (goes > > in smallish con

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-dev] capitals; normalizing true, yes and 1

2011-02-05 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/2/5 "Petr Morávek [Xificurk]" : > Personally, I think of capital=* as a quick and dirty way to mark the > capitals mainly of countries (and states). -) I agree with the quick and dirty hack part, but I don't see why this should be limited to national capitals. I am using these tags in Italy

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-dev] capitals; normalizing true, yes and 1

2011-02-05 Thread Petr Morávek [Xificurk]
Personally, I think of capital=* as a quick and dirty way to mark the capitals mainly of countries (and states). To tag the centre of a lower administrative level, add it as admin_centre role into the appropriate relation. No need to re-invent the wheel ;-) Petr Colin Smale napsal(a): > I'm not s

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-dev] capitals; normalizing true, yes and 1

2011-02-05 Thread Colin Smale
I'm not sure that it would be wise to imply that a capital of an area is also the capital of lower-level areas. There are plenty of examples where this is NOT the case; Amsterdam is the capital of The Netherlands (but NOT the seat of government), but Haarlem is the capital of the province which

[Tagging] "by_appointment"

2011-02-05 Thread Richard Weait
The taginfo seem to be silent on how to tag a shop or service that is only open by appointment. A discussion on the wiki has some interesting points. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:opening_hours#Museum_opens_only_on_request opening_hours=by_appointment seems logical but collides wit

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-dev] capitals; normalizing true, yes and 1

2011-02-05 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/2/5 Eugene Alvin Villar : > I think this is OK. Below admin_level=4, there are no coterminous capitals. you should be aware that admin_level=3;4 will not be evaluated by most of our applications, that's why the semicolon should be avoided if possible (IMHO). I think that capital=6 (it is in

Re: [Tagging] Open cut mining

2011-02-05 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/2/5 Elizabeth Dodd : > I'm tracing a big open cast mine which has > > pit; tailings dump; ore dump; processing plant to concentrate > ore; water supply; container loading facility for concentrate (goes in > smallish containers by road to a rail siding) > > I've got a major shortage of tags and

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-dev] capitals; normalizing true, yes and 1

2011-02-05 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I think this is OK. Below admin_level=4, there are no coterminous capitals. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:50 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/2/5 Eugene Alvin Villar : >> I've modified this to capital=3;4 since it is also the provincial capital. > > > I'd only set the highest admin_level (lowest

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-dev] capitals; normalizing true, yes and 1

2011-02-05 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/2/5 Eugene Alvin Villar : > I've modified this to capital=3;4 since it is also the provincial capital. I'd only set the highest admin_level (lowest number) on the node. Otherwise you would probably have to tag most nodes with capital=3;4;6;8;10 or something like that. I'd use relations for m

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-dev] capitals; normalizing true, yes and 1

2011-02-05 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I've modified this to capital=3;4 since it is also the provincial capital. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:39 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/2/5 Eugene Alvin Villar : >> San Fernando should be capital=3 since it is the admin center for a >> region (which is admin_level = 3). > > > can you set thi

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-dev] capitals; normalizing true, yes and 1

2011-02-05 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/2/5 Eugene Alvin Villar : > San Fernando should be capital=3 since it is the admin center for a > region (which is admin_level = 3). can you set this? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-dev] capitals; normalizing true, yes and 1

2011-02-05 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
San Fernando should be capital=3 since it is the admin center for a region (which is admin_level = 3). On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:00 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/2/2 Daniel Sabo : >> In this specific case it seems safe to convert capital=true -> capital=yes, >> but the other values I'm le

[Tagging] Open cut mining

2011-02-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
I'm tracing a big open cast mine which has pit; tailings dump; ore dump; processing plant to concentrate ore; water supply; container loading facility for concentrate (goes in smallish containers by road to a rail siding) I've got a major shortage of tags and don't have anyone nearby to ask about