the service only if KDE_FULL_SESSION=true?
Have the service run a script that checks the env var before starting the app?
Barry
>
>>
>> Am So., 19. Sept. 2021 um 11:53 Uhr schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas
>> :
>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 4:05 AM Ed Greshko wrote:
&g
the service only if KDE_FULL_SESSION=true?
Use ExecCondition to do the test I think.
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html#ExecCondition=
Barry
>
>
>>
>> Am So., 19. Sept. 2021 um 11:53 Uhr schrieb Mantas Mikulėnas
>> :
>>>>
assume.
> An HTC system could run thousands of jobs per second, and doing extra
> fork+execs plus waiting for systemd to fill up its internal structures and
> manage it all is a no-no.
Are you assuming this or did you measure the cost?
Barry
>
> One other option that I am thinking a
> On 29 Apr 2022, at 07:06, Ulrich Windl
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>>> Barry Scott schrieb am 28.04.2022 um 17:03 in
> Nachricht :
>> Is there a command I can use to test for the degraded state?
>>
>> I could parsing the output of systemct
if a route was working at some point what do you do if the route
goes down later?
Barry
>
> I can't use existing systemd facilities to make these services wait,
> because there's no mechanism available for BIRD to indicate that any
> specific route has been learned, or a way
ence with xfs though, no idea how xfs hooked up reflink
> initially. And we never tested that really. I don't think outside RHEL
> many people use xfs.
Isn’t XFS the default for fedora server?
Barry
>
> If you provide a more complete strace output, you should see the
> copy_file_range() stuff there.
>
> Lennart
>
> --
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>
confusing thing though is:
>
> $ systemctl --user is-enabled perl-server.socket
> disabled
Enabled does mean that it will or will not run.
It means that it is wanted by the default target.
Barry
>
> And the fact that enable/preset/disable create/remove symlinks in
> ~/.config/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants.
>
> Which doesn't happen with a service (e.g. infinite-tsukuyomi) when the
> service is in /usr/lib/systemd/user.
>
> Regards,
> Yuri
>
> On 30 Sep 2022, at 14:30, Nicola Mori wrote:
>
> # Save the long-running PID on file
> ps aux | grep "sleep infinity" | head -n 1 | awk '{ print $2 }' >
> /container-pipes-pid
echo $! >/container-pipes-pid
See man bash for $! definition.
Barry
cgroups v2 support net_prio? Can I set it in a
> /etc/systemd/system/*slice.d/*conf file?
Maybe you can use traffic shaping?
Barry
Can you hook into the vpn client and intercept it doing the dns changes?
I do that for the vpn client used a work to solve integration issues.
In my case its a matter of the right options to use a wrapper around resolvectl
that fixes things before calling the real resolvectl.
Barry
>
>
> On 2 Nov 2022, at 15:20, Thomas HUMMEL wrote:
>
> On 10/31/22 12:19, Petr Menšík wrote:
>
> Hello, thank you and Barry as well for your answers
>
>
>> I would suggest using strace to find what exactly it does and what it tries
>> to modify. I expec
Service gets to set its state explicitly, no need for systemd to guess.
What are the shortcomings you are referring to?
Barry
>
>
>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 11:34 AM Alvin Šipraga wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ted,
>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 08:52:00AM -0600, T
as properly loaded.
> > ACTIVE = The high-level unit activation state, i.e. generalization of SUB.
> > SUB= The low-level unit activation state, values depend on unit type.
> > 9 loaded units listed.
>
>
> I've re-installed systemd-sysv and rebooted, cleaned old journalctl entries
> but same issues.
Why do you need the sysv package on a systemd system at all?
Barry
>
> Basically, I'm clueless here :/ If someone have an idea :D
>
ut IMHO not optimal).
WantedBy may not do what you think, see systemd.unit man page.
Note: WantedBy= and RequiredBy= are used in the [Install] section to create
symlinks in .wants/ and .requires/ directories. They cannot be used directly as
a unit configuration setting.
Barry
t
>>> mkosi git, and see if that works)
>>>
>>> (I guess most mkosi upstreams use fedora, not ubuntu, so this might be
>>> less
>>> tested)
>>
>> On mkosi commit 6332528, it used bootctl --root which seems to not be
>> available On my Ubuntu 20.04 system (bootctl --version yields system 245) .
>> I'll set up a Fedora machine and test there.
>
> Could anyone recommend a version of Fedora to test on, Ie should I pick 32,
> 34, 37, etc?
Use 37 its current and you can get support.
Note fedora release only have support for a year, so 32 and 34 have been EOL
for a while.
Barry
>
> On 20 Jan 2023, at 20:40, William Roberts wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 1:41 PM Barry wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On 19 Jan 2023, at 19:19, Roberts, William C
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
icient use of all the
hardware resources.
I work on servers with 400G of ram, but it is all used. Swap is a critical part
of tuning
the performance with the network heavy work load that disk I/O impacts.
Barry
>
u3.3`. The
> symptoms were the same. The last working version is version
> `245.4-4ubuntu3.19`.
>
> # Symptoms #
>
> The `/var/lib/dpkg/info/systemd.postinst` executes a `systemctl
> daemon-reexec` and that ended in a disaster.
Seems it is a packaging issue that ubuntu or debian n
> On 17 Apr 2023, at 19:05, Bill Steinberg wrote:
>
> Hello systemd devel,
>
> I have a systemd service that I’ve run on prior versions of fedora which
> fails to start via systemd on Fedora release 37. It is a oneshot service that
> starts the distributed checksum clearing house’s dccifd s
hen you can use ExecStart=${DDC_LIB}/ddcifd $DDCIFD_ARGSNote the use of {} in only one place.BarryOn Apr 18, 2023, at 12:02 AM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote:On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 02:59 Bill Steinberg <b...@ponusridge.com> wrote:Hi Barry,Thanks for the response. Answers inline below.On Apr 17, 2023,
knows how to do this.
It has a service and timer that renews the all certs and restarts httpd.
You could see how certbot solves the problem or just use certbot if it suitable.
Barry
fig?
If you are using a tool like ansible, puppet etc, then you would calculate the
value and put into a template.
Barry
> On 12 Jan 2024, at 13:51, Farblos wrote:
>
> LogFilterPatterns=~ritzelbimpf
The docs say this means discard any log that contains ritzelbimpf.
See
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd.exec.html#LogFilterPatterns=
What where you expecting?
Barry
> On 12 Jan 2024, at 20:29, Farblos wrote:
>
> On 2024-01-12 18:51, Barry wrote:
>
>> The docs say this means discard any log that contains ritzelbimpf.
>> See
>> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd.exec.html#Log
> On 18 Jan 2024, at 17:30, Morten Bo Johansen wrote:
>
> How do I get rid of them once and for all?
Use systemctl mask?
Barry
> On 31 Jan 2024, at 18:44, Vadim Zeitlin wrote:
>
> I'd like to understand why does this happen and, equally if not more
> importantly, how to prevent it from happening and store more logs.
What is that value of MaxRetentionSec= in journal.conf?
Barry
nalctl —user about test.service?
Not sure there is a default.target for systemd user. But I have not checked.
Barry
cannot do retries or report
errors.
This seems a significant problem for your service usability.
Barry
:00 etc
Or you could encode these rules in the script that you run daily.
Barry
you sure using After= will have any effect for services started from timer
units?
I have assumed that services started via timers do not use the ordering
directives.
But I am very unsure what would happen, and I am not never a system to
experiment at the moment.
Barry
lyse to root cause this.
Only you have the hardware and software to investigate this.
Barry
thus saving power.
Barry
> On 19 Aug 2024, at 08:38, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 10:11 AM Barry wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 Aug 2024, at 06:55, Windl, Ulrich wrote:
>>
>>
>> Despite of the fact that my version of systemd does not know t
the rated frequency continuously.
Cores will only turbo if there is thermal budget, typically when you do a short
spike of work.
In the case where the CPU cooling is insufficient for the CPU TDP then it will
slow its clock to prevent damage.
Barry
p to Konsole to support
> more of VT220 if I want this to work seamlessly (or I switch terminals to
> xterm).
>
No vt220 does not support colour. I used to work on one and it is monochrome
hardware.
Xterm and konsole support extensions beyond vt220 that add in the colour
suppor
> On 2 Nov 2020, at 14:45, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> On Do, 29.10.20 20:32, Barry Scott (ba...@barrys-emacs.org) wrote:
>
>> There is a bug with the system upgrade of fedora that
>> user services run while the system is doing the upgrade.
>>
>> http
> On 3 Nov 2020, at 12:39, Colin Guthrie wrote:
>
> Barry wrote on 02/11/2020 22:20:
>> What is the work around until the bug is fixed?
>
> I'd imagine you could just disable lingering for the users in question
> before running the dnf upgrade command? Not ide
ceptions escaping from any call back function.
And remember that your call back functions need to use external “C” declaration.
Barry
> Thanks,
>
> Stanislav Angelovič.
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>
> Do you know of a way to set the time on the Linux kernel command line, that
> is passed to systemd/the OS somehow?
There is no option as far as I know.
Barry
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Paul
>
> On 13 Mar 2025, at 08:56, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
>
> What's wrong with adding After=pulseaudio.service (or whatever this
> user service is called)?
After=pipwire.service on modern systems I assume.
Barry
> On 13 Mar 2025, at 11:03, Barry wrote:
>
> After=pipwire.service on modern systems I assume.
Sorry After=pipewire.service
> On 29 Jul 2025, at 10:58, Marc Haber wrote:
>
> Wouldnt that make them just start all at once?
The opposite; one After= the other.
I assume they are type=oneshot.
Remember that After= etc do not cause a unit to run for that you use Require=
etc.
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what is missing or not configured?
Hmm, just noticed that the kernel command says console is tty0.
But when I log in on the console its tty1.
Barry
I'm implementing is to do this on a server upgrade:
systemctl start prod-upgrade.target
# need to wait for stop jobs to finish
dnf update --refresh -y
systemctl start prod.target
Barry
> On 28 Apr 2022, at 09:47, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> On Mi, 27.04.22 18:29, Barry Scott (ba...@barrys-emacs.org
> <mailto:ba...@barrys-emacs.org>) wrote:
>
>> I have two target files that I use.
>>
>> prod.target is used to start up all the produ
Is there a command I can use to test for the degraded state?
I could parsing the output of systemctl-failed or
syetemctl status but was looking for something less fragile.
Barry
On 28/04/2022 16:15, Alvin Šipraga wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 04:03:01PM +0100, Barry Scott wrote:
Is there a command I can use to test for the degraded state?
I could parsing the output of systemctl-failed or
syetemctl status but was looking for something less fragile.
I think the
asy to add
the CA to
Fedora's trust store.
>
> Having this available as a core service within systemd using like APIs either
> in (mostly deprecated) CAPI or the new CNG
Barry
>
>
> Scott Fields
> IBM/Kyndryl
> SRE – BNSF
> 817-593-5038 (BNSF)
> scott.fie..
not using the keyring
then that a problem with the app surely, not the API?
>
> This just seems a good match to have available within systemd
I do not speak for systemd, just curious about why you think this is needed.
Barry
>
> From: Barry Scott mailto:ba...@barrys-emacs.org>>
e where MaxRetentionSec=3day.
> And what do you mean by full?.
>
There are size limits on the journal files. I think that is what is being
referred to.
See man journald.conf and the SystemMaxFileSize for example.
Barry
> On 7 Nov 2022, at 10:24, Thomas HUMMEL wrote:
>
>
>
> On 11/6/22 22:30, Barry wrote:
>
>
>> So a dirty hack is to replace /sbin/resolvconf with a script that
>> does-the-right-thing.
>> Uses resolvectl on the correct interface etc. But only whe
intaining the
service harder then is necessary.
Barry
to fix the issues if you depend on legacy v1
cgroups.
The v1 support is being dropped from systemd at some point I think.
Barry
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 4:16 PM Michal Koutný <mailto:mkou...@suse.com>> wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 05,
solved service to serve the purpose.
I would be worried that breaking the TTL caching rules will create more
problems then it solves.
Isn't the underlying issue that you have unreliable DNS servers that are
important to your application?
Barry
>
> Thanks
> Aditya
>
&g
d-networkd if systemd)'
> '(systemd-udev if systemd)'" returned non-zero exit code 1.
>
That is odd. Where is that "'(systemd-networkd if systemd)" coming from?
I would suspect a package install script, mkosi logic, maybe dnf, but not
systemd itself.
Barry
.x86_64 251.13-5.fc37 will be upgraded
---> Package systemd-udev.x86_64 251.13-6.fc37 will be an upgrade
Why was the interface stuck in configuring?
Barry
ask on https://discussion.fedoraproject.org
<https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/> that is where lots of poeple helpo
users get support.
Barry
>
> GL
> 15-22-04.png>
> On 24 Apr 2024, at 19:48, Etienne Champetier
> wrote:
>
> Anyone have other ideas to do fast exports without having all logs in
> memory or twice on disk ?
Maybe base on time not size? Then you can use the --since option.
Barry
remental vs. full backup into my hourly
backups script.
So I only have one timer.
Barry
> <https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Systemd/Timers> involved.
>
You can change the ExecStart= to use flock, see man flock for details.
Off the top of my head something like:
ExecStart=flock --exclusive mylock rsnapshot
Add in full paths to make it robust.
Barry
>
> Am 2024-07
o a resource, in your case "doing a
backup".
Read man flock to undertstand what flock does and what the command should be.
Barry
I use while updating
my systems to F33?
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> On 3 Nov 2020, at 15:00, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> On Mo, 02.11.20 22:20, Barry (ba...@barrys-emacs.org) wrote:
>
>> What is the work around until the bug is fixed?
>
> First step is to understand the bug. I still don't.
>
> At very early boot-up s
VM.
Is there anything I can do to help debug this?
Or just raise a big report?
What work around would you suggest I use until this is fixed?
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I opened this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1919538
<https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1919538>
I'd love to know if there is a work around until you have time to make a fix.
Barry
> On 16 Jan 2021, at 15:42, Barry Scott wrote:
>
> I have a
Is there any work around that I can use?
Barry
> On 23 Jan 2021, at 14:32, Barry Scott wrote:
>
> I opened this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1919538
> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1919538>
>
> I'd love to know if there is a wo
I just came across the bootctl command. Atleast on Fedora 23 and 24
it errors out because /boot is not FAT EFI. I thought that if you are EFI
then the EFI was always in /boot/efi.
Is there something I'm missing or is the default path wrong on Fedora?
On Monday 30 May 2016 18:47:22 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Sun, 29.05.16 19:39, Barry Scott (ba...@barrys-emacs.org) wrote:
> > I just came across the bootctl command. Atleast on Fedora 23 and 24
> > it errors out because /boot is not FAT EFI. I thought that if you are EFI
>
I think that for my backups to run for a user I will need to stop their systemd
user services.
How do you recommend that I do that and after the backup has completed how do I
startup
the syetemd user services again, just as happened at system boot?
Barry
On Thursday, 4 January 2018 13:08:33 GMT Colin Guthrie wrote:
> Barry Scott wrote on 31/12/17 17:41:
> > I think that for my backups to run for a user I will need to stop their
> > systemd user services.
> Out of curiosity, why do you think that the process needs to be stopped
&g
?
Sorry for the long email and I appreciate it if anyone takes the time
to read it. Thanks.
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On Wed 05 Feb 2014 02:07:33 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fri, 31.01.14 16:42, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote:
> > I have finally managed to get StartTransientService to run a process for
> > me
> > but I'm encountering issues:
> >
On Wed 05 Mar 2014 04:47:13 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 25.02.14 17:59, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote:
> > > Which should make them available via the bus for transient units. If you
> > > need other props like this, just let me know and I'll add t
h /usr/local/onelan/ntb/bin/ntb_mount_usb
│ ├─14886 /sbin/mount.ntfs /dev/sdb1 /data/data/external/USB_Memory_Stick -...
│ └─14890 systemd-cgls
But as soon as the script exits the mount.ntfs process is killed off by
something?
systemd-udevd maybe?
How should I be doing this?
Barry
On Thu 03 Apr 2014 17:27:44 Thomas Bächler wrote:
> Am 03.04.2014 17:13, schrieb Barry Scott:
> > But as soon as the script exits the mount.ntfs process is killed off by
> > something? systemd-udevd maybe?
>
> From man udev's section on RUN:
>
> "
LogTarget cannot be used to log debug
messages. Does the default log target use debug itself and
deadlock or loop?
Here is the full system.conf:
[Manager]
LogLevel=debug
DumpCore=yes
DefaultStandardOutput=syslog
JoinControllers=
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On Fri 17 Jan 2014 21:17:04 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 14.01.14 13:31, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote:
> > systemd-208-9.fc20.x86_64
> >
> > We have been porting a working configuration from fedora 19 to fedora 20.
> > After systemd prints the We
On Mon 20 Jan 2014 13:21:14 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 20.01.14 11:22, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote:
> > On Fri 17 Jan 2014 21:17:04 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Tue, 14.01.14 13:31, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote:
> > >
l output must go to syslog and syslog is
not running that systemd will hang. But why does the configuration work if
LogLevel=info in that case?
Barry
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these attributes in a future systemd
update?
Until there is support I could have a .service run code to setup the
attributes for the .slice's before services that need the changes.
Would that be a suitable workaround until there is support in systemd?
On Fri 24 Jan 2014 11:37:49 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Thu, 23.01.14 11:55, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote:
> > I am running systemd 208 on Fedora 20.
> >
> > There are 2 cpu cgroup attributes that I need to set to allow realtime for
> > some da
memory-limits.include
[Slice]
MemoryLimit=3217719296
#SwapMemoryLimit=5365202944
# systemctl status onelan-player.slice
onelan-player.slice
Loaded: loaded
Active: active since Mon 2014-01-27 10:43:20 GMT; 24min ago
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issue with the missing .slice file.
Is it considered to be valid to refer to a .slice that is not backed up with a
.slice file on disk?
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s created or in
systemctl status for the transient service. I do not see any messages in
the systemd logging.
And lastly what do I have to do to remove the transient service from systemd
after the last process in the service exits? RemainAfterExit=no
Barry
Change the messages output and also all internal
function names and variables to match.
---
man/journalctl.xml | 2 +-
man/loginctl.xml | 2 +-
man/machinectl.xml | 2 +-
man/systemctl.xml | 4 ++--
man/systemd-cgls.xml | 2 +-
src/
On Tue 04 Feb 2014 19:36:34 Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
> В Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:31:58 +
>
> Barry Scott пишет:
> > Change the messages output and also all internal
> > function names and variables to match.
>
> As a non-native English speaker I must admit ellipsize w
Change the messages output and also all internal
function names and variables to match.
---
man/journalctl.xml | 2 +-
man/loginctl.xml | 2 +-
man/machinectl.xml | 2 +-
man/systemctl.xml | 4 ++--
man/systemd-cgls.xml | 2 +-
src/
mple from my system:
home-build\x2dvm-de...onelan\x2df16\x2d5-home-bscott.mount loaded active
mounted /home/build-vm/dev64-onelan-f16-5/home/bscott
The middle has been removed, not the end.
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On Wed 05 Feb 2014 02:07:33 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fri, 31.01.14 16:42, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote:
> > I have finally managed to get StartTransientService to run a process for
> > me
> > but I'm encountering issues:
> >
something else to get this working like cgroup stuff?
Barry
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something else to get this working like cgroup stuff?
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;]
Is it a bug that you do not strip trailing whitespace after substituion?
If I code this
ExecStart=/myservice --arg${optional_arg}
and define
option_arg= --debug
argv is ['/myservice', '--arg--debug']
Is it a bu
On Monday 11 July 2011 17:27:26 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 11.07.11 12:40, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote:
>
> > Do we have to configure something else to get this working like cgroup
> > stuff?
>
> Running X under RR privs? That's bold.
I
For ExecStart= provide more details on env var substitution
and how that turns into arguments.
For EnvironmentFile= explain that double quotes can be used
to protect whitespace.
Signed-off-by: Barry Scott
---
I think the docs could be improved with the extra
details you provided in you email
/show_bug.cgi?id=721350
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On Thursday 14 July 2011 12:16:58 Michal Schmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:03:30 +0100 Barry Scott wrote:
> > As systemd is helping get to a fully dynamic
> > plug-n-play world this might interest you.
> >
> > I encounted a problem getting httpd to startup reliab
recommmend staying with hal in F15 or using some other mechanism?
Barry
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On Friday 15 July 2011 13:58:16 Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fri, 15.07.11 11:14, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote:
>
> > In F13 days we used HAL to call out to our code to handle
> > adding and removal of USB storage with this
> > /etc/hal/fdi/policy/90-onel
Can I have feedback on the patch please?
Barry
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ControlGroup=cpu:/ cpuacct:/screen
LimitRTPRIO=2
LimitRTTIME=6000
CPUSchedulingPolicy=rr
CPUSchedulingPriority=1
ExecStartPre=/usr/local/onelan/ntb/bin/ntb_apply_screen_settings
/etc/onelan/ntb/x.conf
ExecStartPre=-/bin/plymouth quit --retain-splash
ExecStart=/usr
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