On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 8:47 AM Erik Slagter wrote:
> Hi Lennart,
>
> That is exactly the answer I expected, if only because apparently
> systemd does it exactly that ;-)
>
> But not everything needs to be enterprise-grade. This is going to run
> inside my own house in a piece of network that's c
Hey James,
On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 1:21 PM James Muir (jamesmui)
wrote:
> I think the SIGHUP must come from the new PID 1.
I don't know if this will help you, however here is a program that I
wrote last year that starts a service in the initramfs, it survives
the systemd killing spree during the
> > It is not clear to me if the '@' is necessary because the process is
> > invoked using the "init" kernel parameter.
>
> That detail doesn't matter. It's irrelevant how the process gets
> started. In particular as I understand you you fork()ed once,
> i.e. init= starts PID 1, but this is not PID
Hi Lennart,
That is exactly the answer I expected, if only because apparently
systemd does it exactly that ;-)
But not everything needs to be enterprise-grade. This is going to run
inside my own house in a piece of network that's completely trusted. I
can completely imagine it's not sane to
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 at 20:19:01 +0100, Erik Slagter wrote:
> So I'd rather have dbus-broker listening to a TCP socket and if that can't
> be done, using dbus-daemon.
Please don't do either of these. Having a D-Bus "user bus" (session bus)
listening on TCP and willing to execute arbitrary code was
On Mo, 20.01.25 18:21, James Muir (jamesmui) (james...@cisco.com) wrote:
> > Are you sure you are setting argv[0][0] properly? the killing spree we
> > do on switch root should exclude processes marked like that.
>
> When I check /proc//cmdline, I see the '@' character.
>
> It is not clear to me i
On Mo, 20.01.25 18:53, Erik Slagter (e...@slagter.name) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to have a remotely accessible dbus. I'd love to discuss all
> considerations, but for the moment let's just assume I need it.
Sorry, but letting D-Bus listen on TCP is a terrible idea, there's not
sane authentica
Additionally:
As a learning experiment I made an socat construction from a listening
TCP socket to connecting Unix socket. And it works! Of course this is
dirty beyond words and I certainly don't have the courage to try this on
the main session or even system bus ;-)
So I'd rather have dbus-
> > I have a program, init-jm, that forks and executes
> > /usr/lib/systemd/systemd in the parent (using execl() ) while the
> > child collects some stats in a loop.
>
> Uh, you can do this, but it's not trivial to get right: you need to
> move yourself down the cgroup tree, because otherwise you'l
Hi,
I am trying to have a remotely accessible dbus. I'd love to discuss all
considerations, but for the moment let's just assume I need it.
I already learned that you cannot have the "system" or "session" dbus
listening to tcp, as it can run only one socket and it must be a "unix"
type socke
On Sa, 18.01.25 05:40, James Muir (jamesmui) (james...@cisco.com) wrote:
> I have a program, init-jm, that forks and executes
> /usr/lib/systemd/systemd in the parent (using execl() ) while the
> child collects some stats in a loop.
Uh, you can do this, but it's not trivial to get right: you need
> I suspect that your process has a controlling tty based on this comment
> in the killall() function at src/shared/killall.c:
>
>if (send_sighup) {
>/* Optionally, also send a SIGHUP signal, but only if the process
> has a controlling
> * tty. This is useful to allow h
Hi James,
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 05:40:17AM +, James Muir (jamesmui) wrote:
> I have a program, init-jm, that forks and executes /usr/lib/systemd/systemd
> in the parent (using execl() ) while the child collects some stats in a loop.
>
> The child sets its argv[0][0] to ‘@’.
>
> init-jm is
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