Re: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-02-14 Thread Glenn Mansfield Keeni
gt;Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 1:12 AM >>To: Harrington, David >>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2 >> >>Dave, >>Harrington, David wrote: >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>Rather than reinventing wheels, let&#x

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-02-10 Thread Harrington, David
12 AM > To: Harrington, David > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2 > > Dave, > Harrington, David wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Rather than reinventing wheels, let's try to review work that has > > already been done in the IETF

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-02-09 Thread Rainer Gerhards
This is a reply to a direct question - general comment following with other reply. > With Kiwi Syslog and WinSyslog, the config file is not > created or edited > by the user. Just FYI: we (WinSyslog & similar products) are heading towards either human-readable config file or skilled-human-readabl

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-02-09 Thread Rainer Gerhards
> From: Harrington, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Rather than reinventing wheels, let's try to review work that has > already been done in the IETF for these purposes, and discuss any > experience that has already been had with these approaches. > Please look > at the RFC3165 Script MIB > (ftp:

Re: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-02-09 Thread Glenn Mansfield Keeni
Dave, Harrington, David wrote: > Hi, > > Rather than reinventing wheels, let's try to review work that has > already been done in the IETF for these purposes, and discuss any > experience that has already been had with these approaches. Please look > at the RFC3165 Script MIB I fully agree. > (ftp:

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-02-08 Thread Harrington, David
dbh > -Original Message- > From: Glenn Mansfield Keeni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:21 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2 > > Andrew Ross wrote: > > > Having a minimum set of configuration options woul

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-02-08 Thread Andrew Ross
config file would be a good choice here. Rainer, does that that work for you? Cheers Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Mansfield Keeni Sent: Sunday, 8 February 2004 7:21 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SyslogMIB

Re: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-02-08 Thread Glenn Mansfield Keeni
Andrew Ross wrote: > Having a minimum set of configuration options would probably be a waste > of time in my view as all implementations are so different. > > Since all implementations use (or can be made to use) a config file, my > vote is for a free form string variable. The format of the text d

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-02-07 Thread Andrew Ross
>Let me phrase my question rather bluntly: does it pay to provide a very >minimal set of config settings given the fact that almost every vendor >has very different ways to do this. Also, in my experience customers >tend to use those vendor-specifc ways, simply because they need it. To >be honest,

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-02-06 Thread Harrington, David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:30 AM > To: Harrington, David; Glenn Mansfield Keeni; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2 > > David, > > > -Original Message- > > From: Harrington, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-02-06 Thread Rainer Gerhards
David, > -Original Message- > From: Harrington, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:53 PM > To: Rainer Gerhards; Glenn Mansfield Keeni; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2 > > Hi, > > SNMP is good at

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-02-05 Thread Harrington, David
> -Original Message- > From: Rainer Gerhards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:57 PM > To: Glenn Mansfield Keeni; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2 > > Let me make a comment here that applies to issue #2 (BSD Centric) > &

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 // Issue-#2

2004-01-30 Thread Rainer Gerhards
Let me make a comment here that applies to issue #2 (BSD Centric) > -Original Message- > From: Glenn Mansfield Keeni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:05 PM > To: Harrington, David > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: SyslogMIB Is

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4

2004-01-30 Thread Rainer Gerhards
>Getting the high resolution timestamp should not be a problem. And > I think that we can agree to constrain the length of the message that > will be carried in the trap. In -protocol, the max length is sill FIXED at 1024 per message fragment. If a message is large, it MUST be fragmented into

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4

2004-01-30 Thread Rainer Gerhards
> Hi Rainer, >This pretty much matches with the image I have in mind. > Till there is no "original sender" in the syslog message > itself I guess that we will have to do with the "last sender". I assume we are talking about a syslog relay chain BEFORE the realy that issues the trap here. Actua

Re: SyslogMIB Issue-#4

2004-01-30 Thread Glenn Mansfield Keeni
PROTECTED] >>Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:10 PM >>To: 'Glenn Mansfield Keeni'; 'Harrington, David' >>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 >> >> >>Hi Glenn, >> >>That system looks good. Something to map syslo

Re: SyslogMIB Issue-#4

2004-01-30 Thread Glenn Mansfield Keeni
ginal Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Mansfield > Keeni > Sent: Monday, 26 January 2004 3:05 a.m. > To: Harrington, David > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 > > > Hi Dave, > Thanks for the

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4

2004-01-26 Thread Rainer Gerhards
0 PM > To: 'Glenn Mansfield Keeni'; 'Harrington, David' > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 > > > Hi Glenn, > > That system looks good. Something to map syslog messages into > SNMP traps > and another one for notifications. > &g

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4

2004-01-25 Thread Andrew Ross
al Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Mansfield Keeni Sent: Monday, 26 January 2004 3:05 a.m. To: Harrington, David Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SyslogMIB Issue-#4 Hi Dave, Thanks for the comments. I agree with you. Traps are useful. They provide

Re: SyslogMIB Issue-#4

2004-01-25 Thread Glenn Mansfield Keeni
Hi Dave, Thanks for the comments. I agree with you. Traps are useful. They provide a uniform mechanism/console for the network manager to manage the network, related devices and processes. There are two levels at which we may want SNMP traps in the Syslog Messaging context. a. To provid

RE: SyslogMIB Issue-#4

2004-01-20 Thread Harrington, David
Hi Glenn, The benefit of having an SNMP trap is that there becomes some coordination between the syslog messaging and SNMP trap manager applications. Operators often use trap management tools to alert them to problems, and these applications often have the ability to filter out uninteresting trap