Re: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread Enrique A. Chaparro
Jan Meijer, replying Darren Reed, wrote: > >> It is questionable whether we should "roll our own" crypto... [...snip...] >> lets stop reinenting the wheel. > > I [...snip...]would like to second this opinion. [...snip to EOF...] I would like also to second Darren's statement. IMHO, IPSEC ESP

Re: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread Kurt D. Starsinic
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 01:55:17PM -0500, Chris Lonvick wrote: > Hi Balazs, > > Thanks for your input, however you're getting a bit ahead of the plan. :-) > > The first thing to do is to document the existing syslog protocol and any > security vulnerabilities that may be in it. This was fairly

Re: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread Darren Reed
In some email I received from Magosanyi Arpad, sie wrote: [Charset iso-8859-2 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > A levelez_m azt hiszi, hogy Darren Reed a k_vetkez_eket _rta: > [] > > > > Bad crypto is worse than no crypto at all. > > Agreed. But low functionality crypto is not necessarily ba

Re: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread Jan Meijer
> Agreed. But low functionality crypto is not necessarily bad crypto. > I guess we can stop here, because everyone seems to agree that having > something already done is good, and no one seems to care about embedded > systems (I also don't care about them). Perhaps noone has researched standardiz

Re: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread Magosanyi Arpad
A levelezőm azt hiszi, hogy Darren Reed a következőeket írta: [] > > Bad crypto is worse than no crypto at all. Agreed. But low functionality crypto is not necessarily bad crypto. I guess we can stop here, because everyone seems to agree that having something already done is good, and no one see

Re: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread Darren Reed
In some email I received from Magosanyi Arpad, sie wrote: [Charset iso-8859-2 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > A levelez_m azt hiszi, hogy Darren Reed a k_vetkez_eket _rta: > > In some email I received from Balazs Scheidler, sie wrote: > > > * we should support a set of encryption, mac and ke

Re: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread Magosanyi Arpad
A levelezőm azt hiszi, hogy Darren Reed a következőeket írta: > In some email I received from Balazs Scheidler, sie wrote: > > * we should support a set of encryption, mac and key exchange algorithms to > > be negotiated at startup > > It is questionable whether we should "roll our own" crypto.

Re: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread Alex Brown
Chris - I'm getting duplicates of everything on the list -- could you check if I'm subscribed twice?  Thanks. Alex     Chris Lonvick wrote: ... --  Alex Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.msg.com/~abrown +1 617 504 8761  

RE: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread james . cupps
>> It is questionable whether we should "roll our own" crypto...mandate the use >> of SSL or IPsec. Not using existing crypto means you have to get the crypto >> right and then you've got X.509 issues, etc. Time is better spent elsewhere >> - other people have already "solved this", lets stop re

Re: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread Jan Meijer
Hi Chris, > That was hammered home at the DC BoF. We will be using existing > and approved mechanisms where ever they make sense. The term used > then was "common, off the shelf". Cool, that about takes away my worries :). Thanks. Jan

Re: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread Chris Lonvick
At 09:54 AM 6/9/00 +0200, Jan Meijer wrote: >> It is questionable whether we should "roll our own" crypto...mandate the use >> of SSL or IPsec. Not using existing crypto means you have to get the crypto >> right and then you've got X.509 issues, etc. Time is better spent elsewhere >> - other peo

Re: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread Jon Knight
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Chris Lonvick wrote: > You may take a look at that here: > http://www.employees.org/~lonvick/draft.txt Minor, minor, minor point but at the start of the draft you say. "As an example, a whistle from a locomotive alerted people that the train was nearby. The assum

Re: secured syslog protocol...

2000-06-09 Thread Jan Meijer
> It is questionable whether we should "roll our own" crypto...mandate the use > of SSL or IPsec. Not using existing crypto means you have to get the crypto > right and then you've got X.509 issues, etc. Time is better spent elsewhere > - other people have already "solved this", lets stop reinen