SIL Graphite is Wycliffe. Wycliffe produces an enormous amount of software.
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latter is. bibledit is linked to
subversion and allows collaborative work.
Maybe there is scope to a) integrate Bibledit closer into the sword
world by improving the export mechanism and b) to scope outs its
collaborative way of working.
Peter
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Karl and Pe
I would think that paratext should fulfill many of your desires.
Peter
Paul Gear wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I've written a little blog entry on my experiences with Greek exegesis
> this year: http://gear.dyndns.org:81/journal/professional/20070813-exegesis
>
> I'd be
If it is a text from the 16th Century, it is in all likelihood public
domain, isn't it? So publishing and distributing it would be perfectly
acceptable - unless your country's laws are against this.
Peter
David Bell wrote:
> I created a Spanish commentary module based on
FWIW, using Gnomesword 2.2.0 and sword 1.5.9-3build1 (feisty) - both out
the Ubunutu repositories and not obtained from svn - do not throw this bug
Does this help to narrow things down?
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Have you had a look at Bibletool? www.crosswire.org/study. Not all
features but many.
>If one could take all those functions and integrate them into a web server, the
> result would be extremely useful and comprehensive.
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be moved.
The Turkish2.conf needs to be updated - see below - then it could get
moved over.
Peter
[Turkish2]
DataPath=./modules/texts/ztext/turkish2/
ModDrv=zText
Encoding=UTF-8
BlockType=BOOK
CompressType=ZIP
SourceType=OSIS
MinimumVersion=1.5.9
SwordVersionDate=2007-04-26
Lang=tr
OSISVers
easy to organise. I will also
restrict myself to either actual photos or serious reconstructions, but
not use artistic impressions or other art. I would think there is ample
scope for makiing an Biblical Art Genbook, but I do not think this will
be what I will do.
Peter
Matt,
this was an excellent suggestion! I just emailed him and got a very
friendly reply immediately back. He had some specific questions re
resolution etc, but i think we will come to a useful agreement.
Thanks!
Peter
Matt Reimer wrote:
> On 8/21/07, peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
own material with
you - and that must be ok under any and all legislations
Peter
jonathon wrote:
> On 08/19/2007 11:42 AM, * Chris Little wrote:
>
>> I don't understand the need for lists of other Bible software or of
>
> Before I changed the question on the wiki it
a picture
2) (not mentioned so far) a commentary which has links for each
chapter/verse/book/{unspecified part} to relevant pictures.
Did I get this right?
And yes, i got Todd Bolen's agreement for a module of about 50 of his
pics in a 400x300 format.
Another matter,
I - call me slow - just figured that SVG maps are XML and can easily be
edited and subsequently easily be translated,
Is there a source of scripture related SVG maps?
I found a couple nice ones on Wikicommons with I started to experiment -
translating is rather easy.
Peter
jonathon wrote:
>
> On 08/22/2007 06:06 PM, * peter wrote:
>
>> Reverse engineering in order to connect up to or allow format shifting -
>> there is nothing immoral about that,
>
> This gets into theology. (Matthew 5:40, Luke 12:15, and their analogues
> i
I think all the discussions about limitation referred to obsolete browsers.
On my Firefox 2.0 the interlinear texts displayed beautifully even when
I messed about with the window size.
So e.g Gnomesword, based on Firefox should do ok.
But I am no programmer
Peter
David (Mailing List
imply
designed as a simple one-language reader like LCDBible.
Peter
Chris Little wrote
> No. What I'm saying is try it out in your renderer and find out whether
> it works either out of the box or with one of the CSS workarounds.
>
> None of the front ends let you bring your o
That is a nice application.
BTW is there a away to make it see already installed Bibles short of
copying them around? I see that currently modules are installed directly
in the directory of the actual programme.
Peter
mmital wrote
> Thank you all for the input.
>
> 1) I have no res
it is recorded or not.
Festival is obviously not available for many languages.
Peter
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have no clue. I will ask around what
is the most suitable way forward and will come back.
Peter
DM Smith wrote:
> Another weird idea, allow for transliteration into braille. Probably
> won't give the proper tactile response unless printed to a braille
> printer.
>
> On S
jonathon wrote:
> Peter wrote:
>
>> Braille is good - but it relies on presence of a braille terminal - I
>
> Braille printer, not a Braille terminal.
Is this really a function of te programme and not one of the printer driver?
>> understand they are very
n my last laptop or
what tocyrillic does on Firefox, then it is exactly what you want.
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So back then to the sound files - would this be a possibility?
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Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Peter,
>
> It would certainly be possible with the current engine software. It would
> be dependent on the frontend to handle the new data in a module.
>
> We just need to decide the best way to include information about audio and
> what it mea
I think this is an excellent idea.
At the moment the GenBook section appears a bit like an afterthought and
is not really well integrated. But this would totally transform it into
something very useful.
Peter
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Dear Don,
>
> I have missed you! It's goo
Another interesting way forward would be an ability to tag sections in
GenBooks thematically.
So a search on forgiveness e.g. would throw up all Bible verses, related
commentary sections, a dictionary entry and various tagged sections in
Genbooks.
Peter
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
> On Tue, 25
Don A. Elbourne Jr. wrote:
> Several years ago I wrote a XSLT transformation from OSIS to XHTML and
> integrated it with a simple XUL (Mozilla based) app - well it really
> wasn't much of an app; sort of just a thing. :) Anyway, anybody
> remember that? I no longer have those files.
> If anyone
Karl, _that_ picture is no advertisement for GS unicode abilities - the
letters are unligated. It is like a vaguely ordered collection of
capitals. It might be a font issue only for your install rather than GS.
Still.. :-)
Peter
Karl Kleinpaste wrote:
> Daniel Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g
as been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
> similar future email. If you have any questions, see
> the administrator of that system for details.
>
> Content preview: peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Karl, _that_ picture is
> no
&
s in experimental modules do not work of if I
simply do not like its features.
Peter
>
> I had never previously thought to check for any limitation on version
> stamp format. I faintly remember noticing around the time that I first
> created the GS manual module that bible.org's
8 and advise the user to update the
module. People who can try out new software will have access to new
modules update too.
Yours in Him
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Is this really only a Vietnamese problem, but will not all latinate
scripts with extra signs have exactly the same problem?
Or actually all scripts which are treated as derrived scripts - Farsi,
urdu and Malay from Arabic, Tajik, Uzbek, Azeri from Russian etc - the
code points are initially for th
hnical categories
as displayed and explained module capabilities.
Peter
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Martin Gruner wrote:
>
>> HI Eeli,
>>
>> IMO we should hide the technical detail from the users. For them, only the
>> "logical" function i
I just tested the personal commentary in Gnomesword with Farsi (arabic
RtoL type script) and it works fine,
Peter
Adam Waller wrote:
> Dear developers,
>
> I have a Mongolian friend of mine that was looking to see if there is a way
> to use Unicode Mongolian Cyrillic text in
'Proprietor 'is the owner.
Latin.
So the format is owned, irrespective of whether it is published (even
under GPL).
Th econnection betwen closed source and proprietary is not a given,
though it is often used - falsely as synonymous.
Peter
DM Smith wrote:
> On Nov 4, 200
I think along the responses on this thread the original request has gone
lost.
What was asked for is not a OSIS2ODF filter, but the opposite, ODF2OSIS.
And, no I can not help. I am clueless on the matter.
Don A. Elbourne Jr. wrote:
> jonathon wrote:
>> On another list (whose URL I've forgotten),
Thanks for your support, much appreciated,
> Brian.
This sounds absolutely great.
Do make sure though, please it will work with all modules - including
the RtoL ones. That would be wonderful!
Peter
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I was just trying to say it when your post came in.
Happy Christmas! And particularly thanks to the developers and God's
blessings for these days and the new year!
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) The text is left bound, but should be right bound. The Arabic module
is right bound.
This is on Wine on Linux. I will in the next couple of days have a look
at the programme on Win200 and WinXP.
God bless you
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to Crosswire with permission _to_
Crosswire to distribute it. So you will not be allowed to re-distribute.
The Turkish Bible is in this category.
Others are re-distributable on various terms (e.g. non commercially or
unaltered etc.
God bless you.
Peter
>
> I am just looking through some of th
at you do use the standard directories for your own software
or at least enable standard directories for yoru software. This enables
less computer aware users to use whatever software they like, to try out
several and always have all their already downloaded and installed
modules available.
HTH.
Pe
, Bible2.db01 and Bible2.db02. So I assume this is a database
of some sort, but I can not get closer to it.
i have not found the executable.
Peter
Serhiy Kuznyetsov wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I know Russian as well as Ukrainian. Which help did you want with this page?
>
> Serhiy
>
least partially translated?
I have no sensible idea apart from simply dumping all BD property files
somewher eand then doing hand searches (which is what I am doing) but I
thought I should at least throw the idea into the ring.
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lines.
My systems: Linux Ubuntu 7.10 and Ubuntu 6.06
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>Any ideas what could I be missing or what can be wrong?
>Thanks in advance,
>
>
> Alonso
>
Thsi sounds exactly like my post from a couple of hours ago with regard
to osis2mod.
I eventually used another computer where I
Alpha region some zip files.
DM Smith wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2008, at 6:43 PM, Chris Little wrote:
>
>>
>> peter wrote:
>>> Having finally had a chance to look at the new version of BibleCS and
>>> the FarsiOPV module two problems come to light:
>> Which v
ok, building just now.
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segmentation fault on running osis2mod, after ./autogen.sh, ./configure,
make and sudo make install
As I am not sure what this is and as there is no other output I can not
tell more.
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DArio Matos wrote:
> Luke,
>
> Are the files you posted the link in your first mail updated? I'd like to
> test them myself.
>
> Also, could you make them windows-frontend installer friendly, instead of
> just having them raw?
Simply unzip the module with C:/Program files/Crosswire/The Sword P
you all.
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DM Smith wrote:
> On Jan 15, 2008, at 5:33 AM, Chris Little wrote:
>
>> peter wrote:
>>> One of the things which are recurrent on the mailing list is the
>>> difficulty + slowness of getting a module through the door - i.e.
>>> both
>>> to put
l copyrighted material - which we somehow do
not seem to get. Maybe copyright holders do think along Bill Gates'
lines and see piracy as another way of promoting their goods...
Peter
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free node #sword, #gnomesword and #jsword
First is most important, latter is occasionally used, last is dead.
Peter
Ray Ellerd wrote:
>
>
> Are folks still meeting on IRC for development and support? If so, where?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
kinds of electronic
formats as long as the copyright is acknowledged.
Something for us?
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copyrightable IMHO.
Just because you put your mind to getting something from paper to
electrons does not create a copyright.
Peter
John H. wrote:
> This goes into more depth about it...
>
> http://www.arabicbible.com/bible/vandyke.htm
>
> Specifically...
>
> "These Arabi
John H. wrote:
> Peter,
>
> All printed copies I have seen, I have noticed the vowels as well.
>
> I just pointed to this one because it was easily accessible and
> already had the vowels. I was just wondering how to get a sword
> module with the vowels, however possibl
ate pseudo translations with carefully introduced
falsehoods e..g a certain prophet was send by God and announced by Jesus
Christ. So, if you can prove your credentials and your aqbility (by
creating a sword module) you will in all likelihood run into open doors
when you finally get round to asking th
above. Curiosity makes
me ask this, not criticism.
Peter
Jon Brisbin wrote:
> Would there be any problem with using a web-based SWORD app that
> served the content of SWORD modules as either XML or JSON to an
> offline-capable bible program (i.e. built with Google Gears, etc...)?
That indeed is right.
But my experience is that you get more if you are able to demosntrate
that you are actually capable of using it. I.e. a working module goes a
long way to convince people.
Peter
David Trotz wrote:
> John H. wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> David emailed the a
tware. Otherwise
you tend to get a chinese whisper effect of transmission errors.
So the best source would then be the word files. But that could be very
hard work. I do not know. I always worked with paratext files, which are
already encoded in USFM.
Peter
John H. wrote:
> So is it easier to poss
of the final module without allowing commercialisation or
format shifting.
Peter
Sebastien Koechlin wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 09:09:59PM +0200, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 03:02:33PM +0100, Sebastien Koechlin wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jan 01,
That is obviously quite concerning as I would not even have thought
about this.
DM Smith wrote:
> I cannot answer for the French Darby Bible translation. I can shed
> some light on the KJV. It may be parallel.
>
> I worked on the latest cleanup of CrossWire's KJV module. In the
> process I
er we have a quality
text.
And this also goes into the direction of that other thread with DM's
last post re French Darby Translation
If we can ascertain that the text unaccented is as we know it, we should
be fine wrt copyright.
Peter
jonathon wrote:
> Peter wrote:
>
>> I d
Wish I was there.
Any chance of a Europe side Sword meeting ever?
Peter
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I am UK based, but would happily come to Germany too.
Martin Gruner wrote:
> Peter,
>
> we did have 2 small Sword meetings in Cambridge at Daniel Glassey's in the
> past.
>
> If there is interest, we could see if we can organize a meeting here at
> Germany.
&
create a module out of a plain numbered
word document?
How do you do this?
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I will just try and
pester them. Some people get excited when they get phone calls from far
away, so maybe this helps.
Peter
appropriate to John H. wrote:
> I don't think you are going to get a response from them through email. I had
> emailed them before and never received a resp
John H. wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Do I understand you live in Germany? The people claiming to own the
> copyright
> are in MA. Is that who you got the phone # of?
>
Names, telephone numbers and a fair bit more.
>
> peter wrote:
>> Ok, I tracked them down and have a
Chris Little wrote:
> peter wrote:
>> Chris Little wrote:
>>> I'm having problems with a hard drive that has most of my module work.
>>> So while it was being repaired, I spent a couple hours and made an OSIS
>>> doc of the Smith & Van Dyck Arab
peter wrote:
> Chris Little wrote:
>> peter wrote:
>>> Chris Little wrote:
>>>> I'm having problems with a hard drive that has most of my module work.
>>>> So while it was being repaired, I spent a couple hours and made an OSIS
>>>> d
Chris Little wrote:
>
> peter wrote:
>> or another point, would a export filter directly for OSIS or THML be a
>> possibility?
>
> No, not even remotely possible.
technically impossible or no one there to write it?
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Following on a discussion we had on another thread, I realised that it
is possible to run a svn repository from my ~user directory on
crosswire. This is great as it allows me to make minor changes to the
module etc without a 40 min upload each time. I just svn commit up my
changes and recompile the
Chris Little wrote:
>
> peter wrote:
>> Chris Little wrote:
>>> peter wrote:
>>>> or another point, would a export filter directly for OSIS or THML be a
>>>> possibility?
>>> No, not even remotely possible.
>> technically impossible
this is moving forward. I am promised a call back in the near
future from the director. Pray please.
Peter
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David
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 5:13 AM
> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Success (moving towards)
>
> Ok, more contact made from the attorney. He is still the attor
Ok, more contact made from the attorney. He is still the attorney of the
group so I think I am making head way. The wonders of Google.
Please pray that this is working out.
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GPL?
Wade Maxfield wrote:
>I want to do a sword project that is a little different than what has
> been done. (not much different)
>
>I want a sword server application that can feed scriptures requested to a
> client. This would be similar to a web server, but it would serve
> scriptures
. Will you now?
Peter
peter wrote:
> GPL?
>
> Wade Maxfield wrote:
>>I want to do a sword project that is a little different than what has
>> been done. (not much different)
>>
>>I want a sword server application that can feed scriptures requested to a
>&
Can not say much to the larger part of what you write.
> Finally I can't find much documentation or source examples on how to make
> devotionals. I have the Liturgy of the Hours (aka Divine Office) in word
> format
> but for that I need to be able to set the dates in terms of weeks and
> weekdays
ot want to obtain a permission (or even ask for it) and
then realise it will not be distributed as this obviously would be more
than offensive to those who might grant a permission.
My real aim is to create some interest and trust and maybe get help to
get BD translated into Arab
certainly within the paramaetres I would think are appropriate.
Peter
Chris Little wrote:
> I'm certainly not the arbiter of orthodoxy, but have a couple points to
> mention. First, CrossWire definitely isn't an Evangelical organization
> in the sense that we have a stat
As someone who does not code, but is a translator only, can I say something:
I am delighted that this project is GPL. It allows me to do all those
things any "gratis but unfree" license so commonly used by others does
not.Often
As a church we can distribute Sword software and target specifically
>
> Seeing as the hard coded versification scheme seems to be limiting many
> areas of growth for Sword and it's possible uses, I was wondering if a
> new versification method could be placed as a high priority.
>
> Just a thought:
> Is it possible to have the Sword library parse a text file w
jonathon wrote:
> On Jan 27, 2008 3:22 PM, Chris Little wrote:
>
>> Is the CCC copyrighted?
>
> Copyright of the English translation is held by the United States
> Catholic Conference,Inc.
But the original poster has the Spanish text an dseems to be confident
that he can distribute it.
> xan
jonathon wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to have the Sword library parse a text file with different
>> versifications defined in it?
>
> One of the major issues is how to say that Malachi4:16 and Malachi
> 3:24 are the same verse. Or Esther 9:19 and Esther 9:19a are two
> different v
jonathon wrote:
> Peter wrote:
>
>> But the original poster has the Spanish text and seems to be confident that
>> he can distribute it.
> Confidence that it can be distributed does not suffice.
I do not think that this is what i said.
&
peter wrote:
> jonathon wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible to have the Sword library parse a text file with different
>>> versifications defined in it?
>> One of the major issues is how to say that Malachi4:16 and Malachi
>> 3:24 are the sam
as the name says a Bible editor, a
translation tool a la Paratext) There is probably other stuff too. Teus
uses sqlite a lot and that might play a role too.
I attach them below. The whole source can be obtained here:
http://bibledit.sourceforge.net/hot-off-press
Peter
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/*
Thanks!
Barry Drake wrote:
> Hi there
>
> peter wrote:
>> I have just now looked through the code of libsword and could not find
>> where it gets its versification scheme.
>
> Look in canon.h for all the information that the library uses.
>
> God
recompile Sword ? + it would
then be able to deal with a RC scheme?
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Barry Drake wrote:
> Hi Peter ...
>
> peter wrote:
>> So could I - once that number mystery is understood - create a different
>> canon.h file for e.g RC versification and recompile Sword ?
>
> I'm sure you could - but you'd break it as far as all
So basically 2 big ones LXX and KJV and any number of variations on
either. And KJV comes with/without apogryphae
I do remember seeing in my Lutherbible a long list of versification
deviations to older prints.
Peter
peter wrote:
> Barry Drake wrote:
>> Hi Peter ...
>>
being the biggest threat to
the Coptic church for the last 1000 years.
So, yes, I believe it is a valuable booklet and producing it as a module
may even open totally new doors for us. And latter is what I am after,
though making this module work was a valuable exercise
Chris Little wrote:
> Significantly, using TreeKeys means you don't have to know about
> versification schemes or pick one (unless you need to do mapping).
>
> New modules that use new versification schemes don't require more coding
> in the API, they're inherent to the module itself.
ok, th
- "this is BD, this is how you use in in Vietnamese and this is
where we kindly got our material from ->link". Same in Farsi, German,
Chinese.
Peter
Daniel Owens wrote:
> I just received this response from the copyright holders of the New
> Vietnamese
> Bible (NVB), p
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello again;
>
> I am learning to build modules with the "Imitation of Christ". I downloaded
> the
> thml version from CCEL and it basically works, my conf file includes:
> GlobalOptionFilter=ThMLScripref
>
> however using GnomeSword2 I don't see the references. Is thi
o I can not
advise you on what to do, but I suggest you go into the archives and
read up what has been done by whom. The Portuguese Bible is a sad story
AFAIK.
Peter
> Yours,
> André
>
>
> Sergio QUEIROZ wrote:
>> Hi André,
>>
>> Concerning the effort of
๑
> Matt 8:1
>
>
> I'm curious if the passage reference is working or whether it is reading
> the displayed reference.
All three work fine.
>
> ak
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Sent:* 01/30/2008 4:52:51
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- avolunteer DrStovallFoundation <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
>
>> I am slow and do better creating than following the instructions.
>> But if someone will give me a little guidance, I will
>> make this Catholic English Bible into a Sword module.
>>
>> Many thank
One of the ways I learnt I can mess up my GS/Sword installations
thoroughly is to have several instances on various places. Check
usr/local, /usr and opt and delete everything which appears to be
superfluous.
John H. wrote:
> I did rebuild from scratch. I rebuilt gnomesword afterwards, but it
DM Smith wrote:
> I've just checked in changes to osis2mod that allow it to handle
> commentaries.
Dm, this is wonderful! Thanks!
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Not silly at all.
I will pray.
David Trotz wrote:
> Guys,
> I could use some prayer. Its not the end of the world or anything. I
> just need prayer to gain focus on my work on the SwordReader stuff I was
> working on earlier this month. I had a crazy couple of weeks at work
> catching up from
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