Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-11-23 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Josh, I added you to the project members. For anyone wanting to participate, you need a Google email address. Regards, Manfred Am 23.11.2007 um 00:41 schrieb Joshua Gould: > I'm in on this project, I have an intel and a ppc mac both running > 10.5.1 at my disposal. Let me know how I can hel

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-11-22 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Ok, thx for this reminder and changed to v2 GPL Manfred Am 23.11.2007 um 00:28 schrieb Eeli Kaikkonen: > On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > >> Sorry, forgot the project URL: >> http://code.google.com/p/eloquent/ > > The page has "License:GNU General Public License v3" but as has b

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-11-22 Thread Joshua Gould
I'm in on this project, I have an intel and a ppc mac both running 10.5.1 at my disposal. Let me know how I can help, I have no programming experience, but that could always change... I have joined both the dev and user lists for Eloquent, but I can't join the code project unless I'm inv

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-11-22 Thread Eeli Kaikkonen
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > Sorry, forgot the project URL: > http://code.google.com/p/eloquent/ The page has "License:GNU General Public License v3" but as has been discussed some time ago, v3 is against the Sword licence because GPL v2 and v3 are not compatible. Otherwise, go

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-11-22 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Sorry, forgot the project URL: http://code.google.com/p/eloquent/ Manfred Am 22.11.2007 um 20:30 schrieb Manfred Bergmann: > Hi. > > Finally mailing lists have been created and the project is hosted. > > Anyone interessted is free to subscribe here: > http://groups.google.com/group/eloquent-b

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-11-22 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Hi. Finally mailing lists have been created and the project is hosted. Anyone interessted is free to subscribe here: http://groups.google.com/group/eloquent-biblereader-user http://groups.google.com/group/eloquent-biblereader-dev The project is hosted here and I did an initial commit today. Not

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-10 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Am 09.09.2007 um 12:08 schrieb Eeli Kaikkonen: > On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >> CrossWire exists to facilitate community development of free >> software. >> Any services we offer are very much available for your work. >> Specific >> to what you've mentioned, we can provide:

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-10 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Hi Josh. To be honest I'm not sure. I didn't see any code processing images. I think no, it does not. Regards, Manfred Am 08.09.2007 um 23:41 schrieb Josh Gould: > I'm already starting a list of stuff that some of the other front ends > will do that the current MacSword will not, one thing t

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-09 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Am 09.09.2007 um 19:56 schrieb Michael Zappe: > > On Sep 9, 2007, at 4:42 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > >> >> The Cocoa text system is strong, right. >> But I think I did not fully understand what you have in mind. >> I would like to see text rendering much easier than in MacSword. No >> tables,

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-09 Thread Michael Zappe
On Sep 9, 2007, at 4:42 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > > The Cocoa text system is strong, right. > But I think I did not fully understand what you have in mind. > I would like to see text rendering much easier than in MacSword. No > tables, no css. > Simple but effective. Using WebKit, words tha

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-09 Thread Michael Zappe
I strongly agree with the wiki idea. I use one for coordinating the development at work, and it is a very big help. The main thing to do with a wiki is to remind people that it's there, and to take or transfer their notes into it. We've also managed to move some of our CRM into it, to help k

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-09 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Hi Jónatas. Am 09.09.2007 um 00:45 schrieb Jónatas Ferreira: > I agree with you that the app should have a new look&feel too. And > I absolutely love the idea of including ability to work with all > those kinds of modules. Count me on the boat, at least for testing. > If you feel I can do

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-09 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Am 09.09.2007 um 01:35 schrieb Michael Zappe: In thinking, pretty far. In implementing, not quite so far. My dream is to have a nice Mac application which would handle interlinear/parallel display, and have some parsing functionality to help with original language study. (I'm a big fan of Gr

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-09 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Am 09.09.2007 um 11:56 schrieb Eeli Kaikkonen: > On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Michael Zappe wrote: > >> In thinking, pretty far. In implementing, not quite so far. >> >> My dream is to have a nice Mac application which would handle >> interlinear/parallel display, and have some parsing functionality to >

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-09 Thread Eeli Kaikkonen
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > CrossWire exists to facilitate community development of free software. > Any services we offer are very much available for your work. Specific > to what you've mentioned, we can provide: > > mailman email list > svn source repository > > Also would su

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-09 Thread Eeli Kaikkonen
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Michael Zappe wrote: > In thinking, pretty far. In implementing, not quite so far. > > My dream is to have a nice Mac application which would handle > interlinear/parallel display, and have some parsing functionality to > help with original language study. (I'm a big fan of G

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
"Josh Gould" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > one thing that has struck > me as odd is that if you have a foot note, the UI will not display it > as a tool tip, but rather as inline text. (I just realized why I use > NETtext and NETfootnotes separately...) Aside... We've had people ask from time to

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread Michael Zappe
In thinking, pretty far. In implementing, not quite so far. My dream is to have a nice Mac application which would handle interlinear/parallel display, and have some parsing functionality to help with original language study. (I'm a big fan of Greek and Hebrew.) A lot of what I've played

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Dear Manfred and other interested Mac development, CrossWire exists to facilitate community development of free software. Any services we offer are very much available for your work. Specific to what you've mentioned, we can provide: mailman email list svn source repository Also would suggest

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread Jónatas Ferreira
Hi Manfred, I understand your thoughts on the subject. I didn't knew about all problems (I only knew about some of them) and I didn't want to sound critical about the way you and Will have been conducting the development. I agree with you that the app should have a new look&feel too. And

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Hi DM. Am 09.09.2007 um 00:15 schrieb DM Smith: > Manfred, > I'd like to suggest that we use a more Mac friendly location for > modules than ~/.sword. The Mac way seems to be to put resources under > ~/Library/Application Support. I'd like to suggest having the module > directory be there

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread DM Smith
Manfred, I'd like to suggest that we use a more Mac friendly location for modules than ~/.sword. The Mac way seems to be to put resources under ~/Library/Application Support. I'd like to suggest having the module directory be there and called Sword. Currently this is where BibleDesk

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Hi Mike. How far have you been in thinking about a new application? Manfred Am 08.09.2007 um 20:21 schrieb Michael Zappe: > I'm a programmer, I know Cocoa decently well, and was thinking of > doing something similar myself. I'm strapped for time, but I'd love > to help in any way I can give

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Hi Jónatas. The problem with MacSword is that it is not so easy to add new features and enhance the application. I've spend many many hours over the last one and a half years to cleanup the code. Actually a lot under the hood has been done and some bugs have been fixed. After the compiler f

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread Manfred Bergmann
Hi. Thanks for your replies. First of all, we need a place to talk, a mailing list where we do not disturb other sword discussions. As it is a new development there are lots of issues and things that need to be discussed before any coding or GUI designing is done. Then we need a repository an

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread Josh Gould
I'm already starting a list of stuff that some of the other front ends will do that the current MacSword will not, one thing that has struck me as odd is that if you have a foot note, the UI will not display it as a tool tip, but rather as inline text. (I just realized why I use NETtext and NETfoot

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread Jónatas Ferreira
Hi Manfred, I'm very pleased to hear that something new is being started for the Mac. I hope you can reunite a good workgroup. I doubt I can help building the app because I'm not a programmer. But I can certainly help with testing. I've used MacSword for 3 years now and I'd love to see it

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread Michael Zappe
I'm a programmer, I know Cocoa decently well, and was thinking of doing something similar myself. I'm strapped for time, but I'd love to help in any way I can given that constraint. Mike On Sep 8, 2007, at 8:14 AM, Manfred Bergmann wrote: > Hi. > > I want to starting a new frontend

Re: [sword-devel] New development on Mac

2007-09-08 Thread Josh Gould
Manfred, I'm in. I have no programming backgoround, but do have a PPC based Mac Mini and an Intel based MacBook and I'm willing to learn, so let me know what you need help with and I'm there. In His Service, Josh On 9/8/07, Manfred Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. > > I want to startin