Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-05-03 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hi Lynn, Thanks for the report. You might consider subscribing to [sword-cvs] to keep an eye on what is changing in the repository. http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-cvs (I realize we use SVN-- the list name is legacy). I've been actively working on these files and updating the BC

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-05-03 Thread Lynn Allan
Troy wrote: > biblecs/CBuilder6/swordprj.bpg in BCB6 and choosing Project|Build All > Projects > > This should produce a working executable. It does for me on a CLEAN > system. Please let me know if you CONFIRM that it does not for you. As of May 3, using biblecs rev 415 from svn (HEAD), there i

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-20 Thread Chris Little
My apologies, I misinterpreted your previous message in the same way that Lynn did, since that's the more common angle from which the "GPL and Win32 system libraries are not compatible" argument is made. But my second paragraph ("This is a non-issue.") still stands. For the sake of argument, let

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread Jeremy Erickson
I wrote: > Relevant threads from other lists/forums on this topic I have seen include: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/license-discuss%40opensource.org/msg07548.html > (in particular see > http://www.mail-archive.com/license-discuss%40opensource.org/msg07550.html > and > http://www.mail-archive.co

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread Jeremy Erickson
Chris Little wrote: > Lynn is entirely correct. GPL specifically allows for system libraries. > MFC is a system library, therefore allowed. (Not surprisingly, I didn't happen to obtain a law degree within the past 5 hours, so I'm still not a lawyer!) My understanding from what I have read (even

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread Chris Little
Lynn is entirely correct. GPL specifically allows for system libraries. MFC is a system library, therefore allowed. This is a non-issue. --Chris Lynn Allan wrote: (standard IANAL disclaimer) MFC is probably not an option. The Visual Studio .NET 2003 license names MFC as a "Redistributable", and

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread DM Smith
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Borland moving to Eclipse: Borland has always supported Eclipse and has just continued that support and plan to offer their customers a choice of this free ide for their enterprise components. However, their Java IDE is far superior (sorry DM, it's so true), Them's fi

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Regarding licensing issues: just because we use the GPL doesn't mean WE'RE restricted by it. We own the code and can add a clause similar to: "linking against the .NET library is OK" :) Having said this. My intent is to continue to use the best tools available (Borland, of course), for develo

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread Chris Little
Lynn Allan wrote: BCB6 Personal isn't reasonable for development purposes. The personal version can't be used for debugging, making it basically useless. We try to maintain the BCB6 projects so that people can compile projects that have already been developed and debugged and maybe for people who

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread Lynn Allan
> (standard IANAL disclaimer) > > MFC is probably not an option. The Visual Studio .NET 2003 license names MFC > as a "Redistributable", and then says, Also IANAL ... [note: I've asked questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and gotten answers in layman's English ... perhaps we should ask specifically abo

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread Jeremy Erickson
DNR wrote: > Chris Little wrote: > > A new from-scratch .NET/MFC-type app or a QT4 port of BibleTime (once > > QT4 for Win32 is released) would be better options, I think. > > Dev C++ has a nice ide, and uses the Mingw port of gcc. > http://www.bloodshed.net/ > I believe that the source for MFC is

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread DM Smith
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Chris Little wrote: Maybe we should take up a collection to buy Troy a copy of BCB6 so we can all move forward and abandon BCB5 as the supported platform. On the other hand, I think I can state accurately that BCB6 is going to be the last supported Borland C++ environmen

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread Lynn Allan
> BCB6 Personal isn't reasonable for development purposes. The personal > version can't be used for debugging, making it basically useless. We try > to maintain the BCB6 projects so that people can compile projects that > have already been developed and debugged and maybe for people who want > to s

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there Chris Little wrote: The same libsword project file is used for both BibleCS and utilities builds, so it's not that. I suspect that it's a matter of the utilities needing classes (e.g. filters to formats other than RTF) that are not used by BibleCS but that are used by the u

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread David
Chris Little wrote: A new from-scratch .NET/MFC-type app or a QT4 port of BibleTime (once QT4 for Win32 is released) would be better options, I think. Dev C++ has a nice ide, and uses the Mingw port of gcc. http://www.bloodshed.net/ I believe that the source for MFC is available with th

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread Chris Little
Krzysztof Bialas wrote: Chris, BCB6 is freely available with a personal license - and such can be used as long as sword is not involved in commercial activity (I do not know whether it still holds or how long it will hold). BCB6 Personal isn't reasonable for development purposes. The personal v

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread Chris Little
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Chris Little wrote: To clarify, I believe Troy is confirming that BibleCS builds fine using BCB6. I don't think he's making a statement about building the utils, which may still need project work. Yes. Chris has correctly stated my position that I have not had time ye

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-19 Thread Krzysztof Bialas
al Message - From: "Troy A. Griffitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers Chris Little wrote: To clarify, I believe Tr

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-18 Thread Krzysztof Bialas
input file: \ - Greetings Christopher. - Original Message - From: "Chris Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Dev

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-18 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
ay, April 18, 2005 6:01 AM To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers Hi there Troy A. Griffitts wrote: BCB6 compilation should NOT require any downloading of packages outside of our 3 SVN repos: sword, ic

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-18 Thread Chris Little
Behalf Of Barry Drake Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:01 AM To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers Hi there Troy A. Griffitts wrote: BCB6 compilation should NOT require any downloading of packages outside o

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-18 Thread Chris Little
Barry Drake wrote: Hi there Troy A. Griffitts wrote: BCB6 compilation should NOT require any downloading of packages outside of our 3 SVN repos: sword, icu-sword, biblecs. I cleaned out all the SVN stuff from my box and took a clean SVN checkout at 8.30 am GMT this morning. The

RE: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-18 Thread Pham, Khoi
e, but it does not connect. Paul Pham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Drake Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:01 AM To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-18 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there Troy A. Griffitts wrote: BCB6 compilation should NOT require any downloading of packages outside of our 3 SVN repos: sword, icu-sword, biblecs. I cleaned out all the SVN stuff from my box and took a clean SVN checkout at 8.30 am GMT this morning. The whole thing built 'st

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-17 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hey guys. Thanks for the time investigating this. My apologies for being scarce this weekend. I hope to get caught up with things early in the week, but wanted to post a quick note. BCB6 compilation should NOT require any downloading of packages outside of our 3 SVN repos: sword, icu-sword,

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-17 Thread Martin Gruner
> The tutorials work, but when you exit, you'll probably get an > exception because in filemgr.cpp, FileMgr::close() the global "files" > has a value of 00010 in it at exit, and it causes a Memory exception > as the system tries to reference an invalid address. I've had to > ignore this error. I

Re: [sword-devel] Information for beginning Windows BCB 6 Developers

2005-04-16 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there ... Wade Maxfield wrote: This is a compilation of notes to hopefully assist beginning developers in the Windows Environment. Thanks for this. I was going to write something like it myself when (if) I finally get it fully working. First, can I say that there's a free package