Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-03-11 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
David Blue (Mailing List Addy) wrote: On Friday 10 March 2006 23:29, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: I am not a religious follower of open source and ISO standards. Actually, I care little about ISO endorsement of any standard unless the standard is both relevant to the task at h

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-03-11 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Martin Gruner wrote: Besides, it gave a working solution while I waited for OpenOffice.org Writer to gain OpenDocument text format support, and while I'm still waiting for SIL Graphite support to be added to OOo. Oh! I didn't know that SIL Graphite was already incorporated in

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-03-11 Thread Martin Gruner
> Besides, it gave a working solution while I waited for > OpenOffice.org Writer to gain OpenDocument text format support, and while > I'm still waiting for SIL Graphite support to be added to OOo. Oh! I didn't know that SIL Graphite was already incorporated into MS products. mg _

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-03-10 Thread David Blue (Mailing List Addy)
On Friday 10 March 2006 23:29, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > I am not a religious follower of open source and ISO standards. Actually, I > care little about ISO endorsement of any standard unless the standard is > both relevant to the task at hand and a better solution than reasonable > alter

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-03-10 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Jonathon Blake wrote: Kahuna pule Michael wrote: program that reads Unicode USFM Scripture files and produces a Microsoft Word 2003 XML (WordML) document Given your desire for open standards, why does it produce output for a non-standard, proprietary, closed file format

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-03-10 Thread Jonathon Blake
Kahuna pule Michael wrote: > program that reads Unicode USFM Scripture files and produces a Microsoft Word > 2003 XML (WordML) document Given your desire for open standards, why does it produce output for a non-standard, proprietary, closed file format? Especially when there is a European File

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-02-13 Thread DM Smith
The manual has now been posted on the bibletechnologies.net home page along with the schema. The and elements now have a marker attribute for the specific quotation mark, which will satisfy markup needs. For a continuation quotation marker n="""/> can be used, where the attribute n contains the

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-02-08 Thread Chris Little
Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: Apparently, amending the documentation to reflect those changes and openly publishing the results has not been a high priority. This change, once fully implemented in documentation and properly published, would elevate OSIS from unusable without modification to

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-02-08 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Chris Little wrote: > Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: >> First, please let me apologize. By the personal attacks in your message, >> you may have gotten the impression that I was attacking you personally >> instead of promoting the idea that OSIS is not appropriate to set forth >> as a standard f

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-02-08 Thread Chris Little
Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: First, please let me apologize. By the personal attacks in your message, you may have gotten the impression that I was attacking you personally instead of promoting the idea that OSIS is not appropriate to set forth as a standard format for use in Bible translati

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-02-08 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Hello, Chris! First, please let me apologize. By the personal attacks in your message, you may have gotten the impression that I was attacking you personally instead of promoting the idea that OSIS is not appropriate to set forth as a standard format for use in Bible translation and Scripture file

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-02-08 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Chris Little wrote: > Like any NEW technology, it requires that we do work. To that extent, > it is more work than we would have had to do had we just stuck with > GBF, ThML, etc. But I would rather move to OSIS alone than stick with > those formats because OSIS can actually handle markup needs tha

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-02-07 Thread Chris Little
Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: Troy A. Griffitts wrote: I disagree that OSIS has slowed down development here. It COULD HAVE slowed down development here if we tried to actually work on our osis2mod converter to handle a broader range of legal OSIS markup, but up to now, we pretty much

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-02-07 Thread Chris Little
Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: Why Use OSIS When USFM and USFX Work Better? Because OSIS is an open standard, available to all and open to the input and contributions of all; USFM and USFX are not. Oh yeah, not to mention OSIS is in most ways superior (i.e. works better than USFM or US

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-02-07 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > MPJ, > Hello my friend. It's good to hear from you. It seems like > 2/3rds of your issues with OSIS are having to do with . May I > suggest patience to review what comes out of the last OSIS meeting > back in December. We had a good hard look at practical uses of

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-02-07 Thread DM Smith
Much deleted. Troy A. Griffitts wrote: How, in legal XML, do you markup multiple overlapping hierarchies like: paragraph markers We struggled with this and came up with what you suggest in you paper: milestones. And I think we've tried our best to make the milestoning syntax strai

Re: [sword-devel] Food for thought regarding OSIS and some of its alternatives...

2006-02-07 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
MPJ, Hello my friend. It's good to hear from you. It seems like 2/3rds of your issues with OSIS are having to do with . May I suggest patience to review what comes out of the last OSIS meeting back in December. We had a good hard look at practical uses of , and believe me, your concerns h