Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding InstallMgr

Okay, so I've made some progress but appear to be stalled a bit. When instructed to install a module, the command line installmgr doesn't seem to call InstallMgr::refreshRemoteSource() at all, and somehow the call to do the install succeeds.  Yet my example below fails if I don't call to refre

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding InstallMgr

Hi Paul, Have a look at the command line interface for installmgr here. https://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/utilities/installmgr.cpp On December 8, 2022 1:50:48 PM MST, P Mosier wrote: >Hello, > >I am trying to figure out what the appropriate steps to take are for >programmatically installin

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding InstallMgr

I believe you will need to refresh that source before you call the install method. It's trying to look up the config file for that module and isn't finding it. Those get downloaded and cached by the Installmgr class when it refreshes a source. --Greg On Thu, Dec 8, 2022, 14:51 P Mosier wrote: >

[sword-devel] Question regarding InstallMgr

Hello, I am trying to figure out what the appropriate steps to take are for programmatically installing a module through FTP.  Looking through the backend codebase, it seems like there are some configuration settings that have to be initialized in SWMgr order for InstallMgr::installModule to

Re: [sword-devel] Question about strong morph and xiphos

Hi Friends, Thank you for the answers. For Pierre, look in KJV: diatheke -b KJV -o mn -f FMT_OSIS -k Gen 1:1 Genesis 1:1: In the beginning God lemma="strong:H0853 strong:H01254" morph="*strongMorph:TH8804*" savlm="strong:H0853 strong:H01254">created savlm="strong:H08064">the heaven savlm="strong

Re: [sword-devel] Question about strong morph and xiphos

I believe I understand what we're talking about, but please correct me if I am wrong. A long long time ago in a galaxy far far away, our data from Bible Foundation which was originally produced by them with the intend to be used by the Online Bible software package had "extended strongs" number

Re: [sword-devel] Question about strong morph and xiphos

Hi there ! I am confused. Morphological code are about grammar parsing, not about lexicon entry. Looking at the Byz and KJV module: diatheke -b Byz -o mn -f FMT_OSIS -k Mark 1:1 For the first word with the Byz module: αρχη I have a the following output with the KJV module: The beginning Same s

[sword-devel] Question about strong morph and xiphos

Hello, I would like to share here a problem on some module. I would like to have your opinion on the matter. Rwebster and KJV seems to me to use the morphology of the numbers of Strong. However, no dictionary allows to access it. For Greek I found a solution by rewriting some modules like Byz a

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Bible window scrolling and verse focus in Xiphos under Windows 10

OK. Thanks Karl. On 27/01/2021 8:58 am, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: On 1/26/21 4:46 PM, Gary Bennett wrote: Is this 'feature' peculiar to me, or is it a Win 10 issue? It's a GTK2-ported-to-Windows issue. And nothing we can do about it. If there were ever to exist a GTK3 (or /shiver/ GTK4) port to

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Bible window scrolling and verse focus in Xiphos under Windows 10

On 1/26/21 4:46 PM, Gary Bennett wrote: > Is this 'feature' peculiar to me, or is it a Win 10 issue? It's a GTK2-ported-to-Windows issue. And nothing we can do about it. If there were ever to exist a GTK3 (or /shiver/ GTK4) port to Windows, apparently the problem would evaporate. But it was made

[sword-devel] Question about Bible window scrolling and verse focus in Xiphos under Windows 10

Hi, I'm running Xiphos 4.2.1 (gtk2 webkit1) under Windows 10 and I have noticed that the Bible text window doesn't automatically scroll when verses are selected/navigated to using the ctrl-L selector or the ctrl-p and ctrl-n navigator. The verse number changes in the navigation areas at the t

[sword-devel] Question regarding Greek/Hebrew dictionary resources

Hi all, Are the keys of Greek / Hebrew dictionary modules standardized based on Strong’s keys? Or are the keys different per module? I just discovered that the Vine’s dictionary is available in the Xiphos repository. I love that dictionary! I have it in printed form. I noticed that the keys ar

Re: [sword-devel] Question about backwards compatibility and search index download-ability, especially in relation to low-cost, low-power computers (such as might be in developing countries?)

I maintain JSword. We try to maintain backward compatibility with the lowest common denominator version of Java on devices that are up to 10 years old for computers and 5 years for mobiles. The OS version needs to be vendor supported. Android at this point is our boat anchor. For me the most im

[sword-devel] Question about backwards compatibility and search index download-ability, especially in relation to low-cost, low-power computers (such as might be in developing countries?)

Hi, To put it simply, I was wondering what is Crosswire's or perhaps Troy's position on backwards compatibility. I thought that the desired goal, if possible, was for Sword to be able to run on as many devices as possible. However, recently I've seen in mailing list postings or emails th

Re: [sword-devel] Question about GerHfa2002 and locked modules in general

Thanks, Karl! I appreciate your help on this! Best regards, Tobias On 29.03.19 18:20, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: On 3/29/19 7:16 PM, Tobias Klein wrote: I thought it may be convenient for the user to be informed about this *before* installing a corresponding module. Of course. That's what Xiphos'

Re: [sword-devel] Question about GerHfa2002 and locked modules in general

On 3/29/19 7:16 PM, Tobias Klein wrote: I thought it may be convenient for the user to be informed about this *before* installing a corresponding module. Of course. That's what Xiphos' mod.mgr does, or any other UI's equivalent. It's just a matter of whether it examines what's available and mak

Re: [sword-devel] Question about GerHfa2002 and locked modules in general

Ok, thanks. I thought it may be convenient for the user to be informed about this *before* installing a corresponding module. Is there a way to automatically acquire and check the .conf file without installing the corresponding module first? Best regards, Tobias On 29.03.19 08:39, Karl Klein

Re: [sword-devel] Question about GerHfa2002 and locked modules in general

On 3/29/19 10:59 AM, Tobias Klein wrote: It would be nice if the user could see that piece of information before installing a module that requires an unlock key. http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../mod-mgr-w-lock.png Xiphos' mod.mgr provides this with a "locked" column indicator, by looking in .conf

Re: [sword-devel] Question about GerHfa2002 and locked modules in general

nst existence of a key in the conf file > > Peter > >> Gesendet: Freitag, 29. März 2019 um 14:59 Uhr >> Von: "Tobias Klein" >> An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" >> Betreff: [sword-devel] Question about GerHfa2002 and locked module

Re: [sword-devel] Question about GerHfa2002 and locked modules in general

There is not other than by testing against existence of a key in the conf file Peter > Gesendet: Freitag, 29. März 2019 um 14:59 Uhr > Von: "Tobias Klein" > An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" > Betreff: [sword-devel] Question about GerHfa2002

[sword-devel] Question about GerHfa2002 and locked modules in general

Hi, I stumbled across GerHfa2002 and found that it's a locked module. http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModInfo.jsp?modName=GerHfa2002 Is it possible through the API of InstallMgr or SWModule to detect whether a module is locked or not? It would be nice if the user could see that piece

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

I have made an OSIS file from the 1951 Schlachter Bible module using the versification derived from the GBF tags I then repeatedly built an eXperimental module using osis2mod trying with different v11n. None of our supported v11n gave an exact fit. The best fit was (surprisingly) Segond. This

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

FYI. I have found two GBF markup errors in the GerSch module. * One pair of … that is a typo for … * One unpaired “ “ where there should simply be “)”. I also discovered today that the Perl script imp2osis.pl makes a mess of accented letters. At least - that’s when I used it with Perl within th

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

I should add that the syntax help for utils64\imp2vs.exe does include the 3 new French av11n names. I’ve just tried a build with -v German but there are 71 empty verses. NB. Verses outside the specified v11n are not simply appended by imp2vs as they are by osis2mod. Aside: It’s conceivable tha

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

The GerSch module was made from a GBF source text in October 2006 and rebuilt with corrected module encoding in August 2013. I do not have the original GBF file. NB. It may not have had “GBF” as part of the filename or extension. Does anyone active in this list still have it? If Chris Little d

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

Well, the av11n required for GerSch original is not Luther. !!! So, the copyright owner being the Geneva Bible Society, I thought “Let’s try with -v Calvin”. After all, ;) However, “Geneva, we have a problem.” imp2vs never terminates when this is specified. I am using the Windows utiliti

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

The filters don’t care that the tags are repurposed. The GBFPlain documents as tense. That they were and that you know what they mean is perhaps helpful. In Him, DM > On Mar 18, 2019, at 10:56 AM, David Haslam wrote: > > The GBF tags in GerSch that we’re discussing have nothing whats

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

The GBF tags in GerSch that we’re discussing have nothing whatsoever to do with Strongs or Tense. They are quite clearly all used for recording the original references before the text was squished in 2006 to the only v11n that SWORD supported at the beginning. To satisfy my own curiosity, I ha

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

I don't read every thing in this post and maybe someone propose already my solution : convert gbf to osis or to usfm with gbf2OSIS.exe/gbf2usfm.exe (need mono on linux) it works fine! I use it with jpdenmo. Il 18/03/2019 13:51, Troy A. Griffitts ha scritto: > This likely means that our GBFPlain fi

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

I took a look at the GBF Plain filter. It does recognize these and is specifically handling them. Basically the plain filter has a little bit of markup: New lines for (this is a hack), , . It will put notes stuff between this is a note, Hebrew Strongs Numbers and Tense become . Everything el

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

Plain GBFPlain is probably not the filter that PocketSword uses. Probably GBFHtmlHRef or GBFHtml. No reason to expect that these independent pieces of software would work the same. In Him, DM > On Mar 18, 2019, at 8:58 AM, David Haslam wrote: > > Hi Troy, > > That does not seem consi

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

Hi Troy, That does not seem consistent with the observation that PocketSword v 1.4.8 renders them suitably. See my earlier reply. Unless maybe a new bug has occurred in SWORD since PS 1.4.8 was released and that was made with SWORD 1.7.x Or perhaps if different compiler directives were in play

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

This likely means that our GBFPlain filter doesn't recognize these GBF tags and ignores them this should be a simple fix in the filter. http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/src/modules/filters/gbfplain.cpp On March 18, 2019 12:12:59 AM MST, Tobias Klein wrote: >I tried to initialize my SWMgr

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

I tried to initialize my SWMgr object like this: mgr = new SWMgr(new MarkupFilterMgr(FMT_PLAIN)); Yet the results are still the same for the GerSch module as described earlier. Best regards, Tobias On 17.03.19 19:46, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Hi Tobias. SWORD renders these tags for you if the

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

A question about the 1951 edition of the Schlachter Bible. These and tags - can we assume that these only exist because the 2006 module version 1 had to forced to fit the KJV versification ? If so, the corrective action should be to rebuild the module against the proper alternative versificat

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

Thanks for the support on this, Troy. I appreciate it! I'll have a look asap and see how far I get. Best regards, Tobias On 17.03.19 19:46, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Hi Tobias. SWORD renders these tags for you if the planets are aligned. When you create your SWMgr, you tell it what "Render" mark

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

Hi Tobias. SWORD renders these tags for you if the planets are aligned. When you create your SWMgr, you tell it what "Render" markup you would like. We highly recommend XHTML. This will tell the SWMgr factory class to construct SWModule oblects with all the necessary filters added to produce you

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

On 17.03.19 18:38, Greg Hellings wrote: You might need to add an instance of the GBFPlain class to the filter set before calling for stripText. It is specifically crafted to strip the tags you're talking about. In general, you'll want to add a Plain object to the filter set for any module you

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

You might need to add an instance of the GBFPlain class to the filter set before calling for stripText. It is specifically crafted to strip the tags you're talking about. In general, you'll want to add a Plain object to the filter set for any module you're processing to plain text, where can be p

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

On 17.03.19 18:05, David Haslam wrote: Aside: Which front-end doesn’t render these tags ? My own frontend: Ezra Project. Where are these tags documented? I found this: https://ebible.org/bible/gbf.htm But there I didn't find any documentation for the tags I encountered. Best regards, Tobias

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

It’s not just Psalms that has these tags. They are found also in Job, Ecclesiastes, Song, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Zechariah, Malachi David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 17:05, David Haslam wrote: > Hi Tobias, > > GBF is an ol

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

Hi Tobias, GBF is an old Bible markup format. We now don’t accept it for new modules. Have you found an authentic online source text? Can you obtain a better one direct from the GBS ? CrossWire doesn’t normally rebuild a module from text exported from a module. In this case, that would only be

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

Further observation. The actual GBF markup is like this example. PocketSword renders these as italics superscript (3-2) within parentheses. David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 16:30, Tobias Klein wrote: > Hi, > > when working with the German Schlachter Bibel (1951) [G

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

Ok, thanks David! So that means unless there's an updated module I would have to apply my own "search / replace" to get rid of these tags, huh? Are there other modules with the same "issue"? Best regards, Tobias On 17.03.19 17:46, David Haslam wrote: The GerSch module was made from an input

Re: [sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

The GerSch module was made from an input file that had GBF markup. It’s not OSIS. These H tags record the verse references for the original av11n. The module was made in 2013. But the source text was from much earlier, 2006. It might be suitable for rebuilding if we can still obtain the 1951 so

[sword-devel] Question regarding special markup in Psalms and SWModule::stripText

Hi, when working with the German Schlachter Bibel (1951) [GerSch] I noticed that there's some special markup in the Psalms: Ein Psalm Davids, als er vor seinem Sohne Absalom floh. Ach, HERR, wie zahlreich sind meine Feinde! Viele stehen wider mich auf; viele sagen von meiner Seele: «Sie hat

[sword-devel] Question marks and exclamations marks in Bible versions

FYI. I just gathered some statistics by counting the occurrences of question marks and exclamations marks in various English Bible versions. Here are the results: (ordered on the ! ) Version Count (?) Count(!) KJV 3297313 RV1885 3221363 ASV 3220386 Darby 3222941

[sword-devel] Question about module la_en

I’ve bugs in JSword that I’ve been trying to fix. The problems occur when working with the Glossary module la_en, "Latin to English Glossary”. First, JSword expects that a key is present in the module at most once. And if CaseInsensitiveKeys is not set on the module that the keys are ordered by

Re: [sword-devel] Question about CMAKE build proceedures

Thanks Greg. Different tools, different philosophies - so it's nice to understand the thinking behind the tool. One thing to be said for Cmake builds, is the build information is so well presented. ~A On Thursday, January 24, 2013, Greg Hellings wrote: > I have found it usually necessary. It is

Re: [sword-devel] Question about CMAKE build proceedures

I have found it usually necessary. It is heavily encouraged in CMake, and enforced in SWORD's scripts for just that reason, to do a build from outside of the main source directory in an entirely enclosed environment. To be truthful, when building with the autofoo toolchain I usually found the same

[sword-devel] Question about CMAKE build proceedures

I'm still fairly new to using CMAKE (but liking it). I'm finally starting to feel comfortable with its use, but still have questions .. so if this is a newbie question, sorry. Using traditional "./configure; make; make install' I could simply grab a more recent copy (of sword) via svn and make &&

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Commentary Osis

Reply sent to osis-users, that being the place I think most OSIS usage discussion ought to take place. :) --Chris On 12/30/2012 8:43 PM, pola ashraf wrote: Hi everyone, I don't know the suitable list to submit this question to, so i posted it to Sword-Devel and Osis-Users Now, We've made a ve

[sword-devel] Question about Commentary Osis

Hi everyone, I don't know the suitable list to submit this question to, so i posted it to Sword-Devel and Osis-Users Now, We've made a very simple commentary editor, so non-technical data entry can use it easily to generate valid XML http://s9.postimage.org/r6vtq6hjj/Commentary_Editor.png We'l

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

Hi, Sorry for late response, I just realized this message. In Alkitab (JSword based) all rendering structure is done using XSL (osis to html) , so any note placement will be greatly influenced by the XSL that used by JSword/BibleDesktop. Alkitab as in source code does not place particular note in

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

Hi Andrew, I would suggest you look into MacPorts -- it allows you to install the various libraries that you'll need to compile Xiphos natively on your Mac. You'll need Xcode, which is free on the Mac App Store, and then install the MacPorts installer from http://www.macports.org and then dow

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

Nic say: "Also, it was rather trivial to get Xiphos working native under X11 on a Mac, so that may be a lot easier than running it under a VM on a Mac?" You could be right, however I run the VM for other reasons. I need the tools 'Backtrack Linux' so nicely wraps together (day job requires penetr

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

On 21/07/2012, at 6:42, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Find us someone willing to put in the work to produce a Mac package. > The build has been done before, but not in a manner representing a > complete, install-ready package. We've been asking, but no one has been > willing to step up to take on th

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

On 07/20/2012 01:42 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Andrew Thule writes: Chris, the '%2B' is a bug then. Is there a bug submission process for Xiphos I can poke? If it were a Xiphos bug, from the menubar: Help -> Report Bug. But I don't perceive this as a Xiphos bug. I believe the engine filter

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

Confusion comes from POSIX's permissive approach to basename/dirname. POSIX.1-2001 suggests something to the effect that the trailing slash denotes where the dirname ends and the basename begins (which is unfortunately in my opinion) For example if you look at basename/dirname (which conforms to P

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Module Names, conf files, OSIS.xml (and fonts)

Yes, Xiphos in Linux is perfect. On Friday, July 20, 2012, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Andrew Thule > writes: > > Karl, fonts 'appear' rendered differently in the main window (large > > upper right where bible text appears) and not rendered at all (in > > windows) in the pane immediately to the left

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

On 07/20/2012 12:48 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: However, this idea of in line notes was from the OSIS Manual which says "It is customary to include the notes directly within the text, at the point to which they apply", so I was trying not to fight the standard in my understanding - go with the flow t

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Module Names, conf files, OSIS.xml (and fonts)

Andrew Thule writes: > Karl, fonts 'appear' rendered differently in the main window (large > upper right where bible text appears) and not rendered at all (in > windows) in the pane immediately to the left (upper left above the > previewer pane), which I understand (perhaps incorrectly) pulls some

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

>>Also, typically notes of this sort are labelled by letters or digits. Is >>there a reason why you're using non-alphanumerics? I didn't realize there was a restriction on using non-alphanumerics. I was also tempted to try "†". I will dig into the standard to conform to it, but no - no reason in

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Module Names, conf files, OSIS.xml (and fonts)

Karl, fonts 'appear' rendered differently in the main window (large upper right where bible text appears) and not rendered at all (in windows) in the pane immediately to the left (upper left above the previewer pane), which I understand (perhaps incorrectly) pulls some info from the .conf file. In

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Module Names, conf files, OSIS.xml (and fonts)

Andrew Thule writes: > Xiphos renders Inuktitut properly in the bible window and gives you > the ability to expressly choose fonts for bible rendering. In the > left pane (module window) however the same is not true. I don't understand the distinction you're making between "the bible window" and

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

Andrew Thule writes: > Xiphos (which I wish I could get working in OSX sometimes). I run it > in a VM from Linux (on OSX). Find us someone willing to put in the work to produce a Mac package. The build has been done before, but not in a manner representing a complete, install-ready package. We'

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Module Names, conf files, OSIS.xml (and fonts)

Chris thanks for your reply. >> So Inuktitut is in Alkitab's database, where it was missing from Xiphos' (or >> there was some other problem there). It doesn't seem to be completely so. Xiphos renders Inuktitut properly in the bible window and gives you the ability to expressly choose fonts for

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

Karl, Chris, thanks for your responses. Karl I appreciate your comments because you have removed some of the mystique of Xiphos' behavior; which I appreciate. My tool of choice for personal bible work happens to be Xiphos (which I wish I could get working in OSX sometimes). I run it in a VM from

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Module Names, conf files, OSIS.xml (and fonts)

On 07/20/2012 11:43 AM, Andrew Thule wrote: This isn't quit an OSIS question, but it is a Sword Module Question. I've been working on an Inuktitut Sword Module, and been having some font/rendering issues, most of which are now solved - but not all. The last and final 'font' issue seems to be rel

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

On 07/20/2012 11:06 AM, Andrew Thule wrote: One benefit of having markup is that rendering mark-up is left to the client. Even so, I'm looking at notes in Xiphos, Bibletime and Alkitab and each treats them slightly different ways. For example the following note 8:15 is rendered in: Xiphos as su

Re: [sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

Andrew Thule writes: > The Xiphos behavior complete perplexes me - how is *n%2B constructed? The short answer: Xiphos displays whatever the engine filters give it. The long answer: For many years the filters generated just "*n" for footnotes and "*x" for xrefs, without per-element identifiers fo

[sword-devel] Question about Module Names, conf files, OSIS.xml (and fonts)

This isn't quit an OSIS question, but it is a Sword Module Question. I've been working on an Inuktitut Sword Module, and been having some font/rendering issues, most of which are now solved - but not all. The last and final 'font' issue seems to be related to how a module is represented in client

[sword-devel] Question about use of note elements

One benefit of having markup is that rendering mark-up is left to the client. Even so, I'm looking at notes in Xiphos, Bibletime and Alkitab and each treats them slightly different ways. For example the following note 8:15 is rendered in: Xiphos as superscript link "*n%2B" (with contents of the n

Re: [sword-devel] Question about verses combined in USFM and in OSIS

Although Luke's example is common enough, we also see USFM files in which the translators have split verses like this: \v 1-6a bla bla etc \v 6b-11 more text This is much harder to deal with. David PS. If Bibledit complains where verse range tags exist in USFM, then there is a software bug in B

Re: [sword-devel] Question about verses combined in USFM and in OSIS

On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 23:36 +, luke wrote: > I also want to ask again about multiple verses that have been combined into > one verse i.e. Genesis 1:6-7. > Sadly, the end result is that if I try to validate osis that includes this > formatting, it is considered invalid. Then it is invalid

[sword-devel] Question about verses combined in USFM and in OSIS

I also want to ask again about multiple verses that have been combined into one verse i.e. Genesis 1:6-7. Bibledit complains about the usfm formatting of \v 6-7. However, in the USFM User Reference PDF disributed by paratext this is a common format for usfm encoding and is used multiple times

Re: [sword-devel] question regarding Android front end

> Von: Caleb Maclennan > I see Xiphos has some translation stuff setup on launchpad. Can we > perhaps tweak the website so it walks people through getting setup to > translate there? I feel like anybody who knows what a po file is can > figure out how to deal with them on their own. The trouble

Re: [sword-devel] question regarding Android front end

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 01:31, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > On 29/09/10 23:11, Caleb Maclennan wrote: >> I love Google Translate and their various language tools, but let's >> put the effort into finding local translators before throwing software >> out there! > > Caleb, I agree and disagree at the s

Re: [sword-devel] question regarding Android front end

On 29/09/10 23:11, Caleb Maclennan wrote: > I love Google Translate and their various language tools, but let's > put the effort into finding local translators before throwing software > out there! Caleb, I agree and disagree at the same time. I am at this now for several years - a fair number of

Re: [sword-devel] question regarding Android front end

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:53, Martin Denham wrote: >... has proposed doing a translation of all languages using a Google tool > but I don't know how well the Google tool would handle Chinese I haven't seen the original discussion context that this comment references, but having had some experien

Re: [sword-devel] question regarding Android front end

Matthew, I would suggest you subscribe to the CrossWire mailing list called mobile-devel. To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-devel http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-devel Martin Denham is developing the SWO

Re: [sword-devel] question regarding Android front end

Hi Matthew, You can find the bible for Android that uses JSword at http://code.google.com/p/and-bible/. There was another bible for Android based on Sword called Bishop and it appears that Gary at CrossConnect has continued development of that code and has a beta release but I don't really know m

[sword-devel] question regarding Android front end

Hi, my name is Matthew. I would like to contribute in some way to the Sword project. I have been a user for a long time. I don't know fully how I can help, as I am not a developer, but I am a translator (Chinese or Mongolian <-> English), and I am fairly savvy with computers could possibly do some

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

Quoting Chris Little : Provided that all Sword-derived code were removed from a front end (by removing all code from Sword and calls to Sword functions), CrossWire would have no copyright over the result. Providing there were no other GPL dependencies, the authors of this code would be free to

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

Peter von Kaehne wrote: > The copyright of libsword is therefore not just a sum of copyrights of > individual lines but also a joint one. We own each others' code within > libsowrd to a larger or smaller degree and as a collective we own every > frontend jointly with the authors. > Chris and I po

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Matthew Talbert wrote: That doesn't mean it is the sole property of CrossWire, but it does mean that copyright is jointly held between CrossWire and the front end author(s). >Disagree? Ask licens...@fsf.org. Did you really mean to say copyright here? It is my understanding, reinforced by h

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

Matthew Talbert wrote: >> That doesn't mean it is the sole property of CrossWire, but it does mean >> that copyright is jointly held between CrossWire and the front end >> author(s). >Disagree? Ask licens...@fsf.org. > > Did you really mean to say copyright here? Yes, Matthew. It is the same o

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

> That doesn't mean it is the sole property of CrossWire, but it does mean that > copyright is jointly held between CrossWire and the front end author(s). > >Disagree? Ask licens...@fsf.org. Did you really mean to say copyright here? It is my understanding, reinforced by http://www.gnu.org/lice

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Jonathan Morgan wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Chris Little wrote: Jonathan Morgan wrote: It is not backward, it is a pure statement of facts, which you can find quite clearly in the GPL v2 FAQ . You need to

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

Chris wrote: You need to look at the question immediately following the one you link. I'll quote: Q: If a library is released under the GPL (not the LGPL), does that mean that any program which uses it has to be under the GPL? A: Yes, because the program as it is actually run includes the lib

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Chris Little wrote: > Jonathan Morgan wrote: >> >> It is not backward, it is a pure statement of facts, which you can >> find quite clearly in the GPL v2 FAQ >> >> . > > You need to look at

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

Jonathan Morgan wrote: It is not backward, it is a pure statement of facts, which you can find quite clearly in the GPL v2 FAQ . You need to look at the question immediately following the one you link. I'll quote: Q: I

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:18 AM, jhphx wrote: > Having just reread the the GPL v2 FAQ I say, Chris got it exactly right. > But, I understand why Jonathan said he is wrong. > I think that you agree with what Jon meant to say (He doesn't disagree that the application *as a whole* should be GPLv2),

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

Having just reread the the GPL v2 FAQ I say, Chris got it exactly right. But, I understand why Jonathan said he is wrong. Lets take what Chris said in two parts. 1) Chris said,  "To say that a license is GPL compatible means that code licensed under that license may be incorporated in/used by

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Chris Little wrote: > > > Ben Morgan wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:04 AM, mmital > > wrote: >> >>    Hi, >> >>    As Chris pointed out, all front-ends *have* to use GPL v2. So the >>    public domain door is closed for me. >>

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

Hi, On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: > Tonny Kohar wrote: > >> People who distribute it >> (spread the Word) does not fall into must providing the source if >> someone ask and do not need to read complicated licensing things, >> that's why I choose PD. The GPL part I do not

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Ben Morgan wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Chris Little > wrote: > > > > Ben Morgan wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:04 AM, mmital

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Ben Morgan wrote: I thought it was the whole glob of the application that had to be able to be licensed under the GPL? An individual component of my application can be released under another license. Ok, I think I know what you're getting at. Assuming that you want to use a GPL library (e.g.

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

On Mar 16, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Ben Morgan wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Chris Little wrote: Ben Morgan wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:04 AM, mmital mailto:mital.m...@gmail.com >> wrote: Hi, As Chris pointed out, all front-ends *have* to use GPL v2. So the public d

Re: [sword-devel] Question about Public Domain

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Chris Little wrote: > > > Ben Morgan wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:04 AM, mmital > mital.m...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>Hi, >> >>As Chris pointed out, all front-ends *have* to use GPL v2. So the >>public domain door is closed for me. >> >> The l

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