Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-08-14 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Sunday 27 July 2003 19:02, Leon Brooks wrote: > If they're still in contrib, perhaps we should ask again that they trot > across to main. There was some discussion of this on Cooker a while > back. > > Cheers; Leon They still are as far as I know I have not checked in the last few months but h

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-08-12 Thread Victor Porton
On 10-Aug-2003 Brook Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday 27 July 2003 19:02, Leon Brooks wrote: > into sine they don't want to include the tora(?spelling) and whatever > other > manuscripts also. At any rate it and gnomesword are both there. Torah ("teaching" in Hebrew)? So are caslled the first five bo

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-08-01 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Joel, After searching through my emails and extracting the bits that I feel support my 7/17 email, the result is attached to the end of this message. There were many irc sessions that I feel also added quite a bit, but I have no history of those conversations. Though I understand your frustra

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-27 Thread Leon Brooks
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:54, Brook Humphrey wrote: > The current ones in co[n]trib were placed > there by buchan but were originally done by me If they're still in contrib, perhaps we should ask again that they trot across to main. There was some discussion of this on Cooker a while back. Cheers;

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-27 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Sunday 27 July 2003 07:32, Leon Brooks wrote: > Yah, they're ramping up to the 9.2 release now (should hit the streets > in September). > > Currently Texstar provides 3rd-party RPMs for Mandrake on his site > (start at http://www.pclinuxonline.com/) but I think we've managed to > get at least th

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-27 Thread Leon Brooks
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:04, Brook Humphrey wrote: > make sure they are in mandrake also Yah, they're ramping up to the 9.2 release now (should hit the streets in September). Currently Texstar provides 3rd-party RPMs for Mandrake on his site (start at http://www.pclinuxonline.com/) but I think we

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-27 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:58, Hugo van der Kooij wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Chris Little wrote: > > Linux binaries won't be released; Linux users who don't know how to > > compile for themselves need to learn. Mac binaries probably won't be > > released either, for the same reason. We only re

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-21 Thread Don A. Elbourne Jr.
- Original Message - From: "Troy A. Griffitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Don makes a good point that we want to enable people to easily place > their content into our software-- and I agree. > > In my opinion the solution is to: > > 1) make it easy for anyone to import content for SWORD, and >

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-17 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Joel, Public comment deserves public response: Over the 2 months that you worked on your extensions to the Search code, we had numerous emails / chat sessions about what I would not accept in the engine, namely: 1) adding 2 megs of source code of someone elses project just to parse logi

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-17 Thread Joel Mawhorter
On July 16, 2003 17:39, Chris Little wrote: > Seriously, the single greatest problem with Sword is probably the > inordinate ratio of people crying for new features to the number people > they expect to implement them. This is easy to say. However, until new developers are able to be integrated i

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-17 Thread Chris Little
Hugo van der Kooij wrote: Ahh. May I propose to change "SWORD Module add-ins" on http://crosswire.org/sword/develop/swordmodule/index.jsp to "Creating a SWORD Module"? It will make it a lot easier to find I guess. Good idea. Done. Could you (or someone else) add crumbtails to the site? Now t

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-17 Thread John Baima
At 11:30 PM 7/16/2003 -0700, you wrote: John, and did a Project|Build All Projects Doh!!! Out of habit I just did a build, not a Build All projects. 580 seconds later (I like that they give you the time in the title bar!), I completed the build. Thanks for your help and patience! -John

RE: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-17 Thread Simon
> > Why not add a simple edit function in Sword itself, with just some > simple > > functions, like font-properties and text-references, something like E- > Sword > > has. > > Are you offering to work on it? ;) As soon as I have some time (which is very soon, I hope, I'm currently in project th

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-17 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Why not add a simple edit function in Sword itself, with just some simple functions, like font-properties and text-references, something like E-Sword has. Are you offering to work on it? ;) We do have a commentary editor in the windows software, and I believe the linux apps have this feature, as

RE: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-17 Thread Simon
> > Don makes a good point that we want to enable people to easily place > > their content into our software-- and I agree. > > My arguments really have nothing to do with who creates the document > itself, just how well it is encoded electronically. I'm not going to > spend any time writing

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-16 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
John, I tried compiling myself again. I removed both the sword and icu-sword folders, checked them out of cvs, and did a search for Tnt*.h* Nothing existed. Then I went straight to: D:\usr\scribe\src\sword\apps\windoze\CBuilder6\BibleCS\swordprj.bpg and did a Project|Build All Projects Every

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-16 Thread Hugo van der Kooij
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Chris Little wrote: > Hugo van der Kooij wrote: > > > But to this day I have not been able to understand from the crosswire > > website how to go about and create a module if I wanted to. And I have > > been looking into some Dutch documents I might want to add. But to this

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-16 Thread David Trotz
Message - From: "John Baima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD > At 03:19 PM 7/12/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >Hello all you Windows would-be devel

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-16 Thread John Baima
At 03:43 PM 7/16/2003 -0700, you wrote: John, Yeah, it seems the beta version of wincvs is a little different than the stable version. I thought, at one time, we had instructions for both online. Anyway, glad you got it checked out. It sounds like you are opening the sword.bpr

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-16 Thread Chris Little
Hugo van der Kooij wrote: I amrather familiar with HTML and SGML assume I can get my head around other descriptive languages. We recommend using OSIS 1.5. The webpage is http://www.bibletechnologies.net/, the schema is http://www.bibletechnologies.net/osisCore.1.5.xsd, and draft documentation

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-16 Thread Chris Little
His views are by no means representative of the majority here. But his views are representative of the people who have made 90% of the module import tools. If people don't like those views, they can make their own tools--then their opinions will matter. Until then: what we have is generally w

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-16 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
John, Yeah, it seems the beta version of wincvs is a little different than the stable version. I thought, at one time, we had instructions for both online. Anyway, glad you got it checked out. It sounds like you are opening the sword.bpr file and NOT the swordprj.bpg Maybe I'm wrong, but t

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-16 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hey guys, Just a few comments. Chris is back at Berkeley for the summer, so, in theme, he's just being dissenting. His views are by no means representative of the majority here. He does make a good point in that it would be MUCH MORE WORK FOR HIM if we had a million people submitting

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-16 Thread Hugo van der Kooij
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Chris Little wrote: > Leon Brooks wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 04:06, Chris Little wrote: > > > >>And it nonetheless stands; Linux users who don't know how to compile > >>for themselves need to learn (or move back to Windows). > > > > > > Or, to read this another way, if

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-16 Thread John Baima
At 03:19 PM 7/12/2003 -0700, you wrote: Hello all you Windows would-be developers, we have really good news. So, we're seeking Windows developers; no excuses now! Here are the steps to freely compile our free software freely :) Follow the WinCVS instructions to checkout the source code: http://

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-16 Thread Chris Little
Leon Brooks wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 04:06, Chris Little wrote: And it nonetheless stands; Linux users who don't know how to compile for themselves need to learn (or move back to Windows). Or, to read this another way, if you're an _administrator_ instead of a user, compiling should be no p

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2003-07-16 Thread Daniel Glassey
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 8:40 pm, Chris Little wrote: > A version of xml2gbs compiled for Win32 is available at our standard > utils location: http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/utils/win32/ > > osis2vs is still beta software may need updates for OSIS 1.5. So it > will be released when it is

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-15 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 04:06, Chris Little wrote: > And it nonetheless stands; Linux users who don't know how to compile > for themselves need to learn (or move back to Windows). Or, to read this another way, if you're an _administrator_ instead of a user, compiling should be no problem. Users of th

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-15 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:44, Pham, Khoi wrote: > I finally got the Windows version compiled and linked with BCB6 after > downloading both Sword and icu-sword from CVS. Dunno if it's been raised before, but it's possible to produce MS-Windows EXEs from GCC, either on Linux or using MinGW under MS-W

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-15 Thread Hugo van der Kooij
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Chris Little wrote: > Hugo van der Kooij wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Chris Little wrote: > > > >>Linux binaries won't be released; Linux users who don't know how to > >>compile for themselves need to learn. Mac binaries probably won't be > >>released either, for the

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-15 Thread Chris Little
Hugo van der Kooij wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Chris Little wrote: Linux binaries won't be released; Linux users who don't know how to compile for themselves need to learn. Mac binaries probably won't be released either, for the same reason. We only release Win32 binaries of the utils becau

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-15 Thread Hugo van der Kooij
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Chris Little wrote: > Linux binaries won't be released; Linux users who don't know how to > compile for themselves need to learn. Mac binaries probably won't be > released either, for the same reason. We only release Win32 binaries of > the utils because, for Windows, com

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-15 Thread Chris Little
A version of xml2gbs compiled for Win32 is available at our standard utils location: http://crosswire.org/ftpmirror/pub/sword/utils/win32/ osis2vs is still beta software may need updates for OSIS 1.5. So it will be released when it is ready. Linux binaries won't be released; Linux users who do

RE: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-15 Thread Pham, Khoi
] free Windows compiler for SWORD Hello all you Windows would-be developers, we have really good news. Borland has been in the habbit of releasing different levels of their tools at different price tiers, and sometimes they have a 'Personal' or 'Open' edition which is free

Re: [sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-13 Thread Martin Gruner
Hey Troy, wow, thanks for the detailed description!! I pasted it to http://www.crosswire.org/ucgi-bin/twiki/view/Swordwin/GettingStarted for future reference, for all the interested Windows developers to come. In case it needs to be updated, please change / correct it there. Martin Am Sonnta

[sword-devel] free Windows compiler for SWORD

2003-07-12 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hello all you Windows would-be developers, we have really good news. Borland has been in the habbit of releasing different levels of their tools at different price tiers, and sometimes they have a 'Personal' or 'Open' edition which is free for personal use or opensource development. Now, I'd p